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		<title>A Walsallian Story</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Companion post for the Geneageek&#8217;s Gems podcast episode: A Walsallian Story (The relationship of George Ebbans and Sarah Ann Crossley was also previously discussed in the post: &#8216;George the Absconder&#8216;.)&#8230; </p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<h4 style="text-align: center;">Companion post for the Geneageek&#8217;s Gems podcast episode:<br />
<a href="https://geneageek.com/podcast/">A Walsallian Story</a></h4>
<p style="text-align: center;"><em>(The relationship of George Ebbans and Sarah Ann Crossley was also previously discussed in the post: &#8216;<a href="https://geneageek.com/george-the-absconder/">George the Absconder</a>&#8216;.)</em></p>
<p>In the 1921 census, Sarah Ann Crossley was recorded in the home of her parents on 35 Farringdon Street, Walsall. Her husband was not with her and I was unable to find him elsewhere, despite George being released from military service in 1919.</p>
<figure id="attachment_3024" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-3024" style="width: 600px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/1921-crossley.jpg"><img fetchpriority="high" decoding="async" class="wp-image-3024" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/1921-crossley.jpg" alt="page from 1921 census" width="600" height="276" srcset="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/1921-crossley.jpg 1623w, https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/1921-crossley-1536x706.jpg 1536w, https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/1921-crossley-1568x721.jpg 1568w" sizes="(min-width: 1280px) 840px, (min-width: 1024px) calc(100vw - 460px), (min-width: 652px) 800px, (min-width: 482px) calc(100vw - 80px), calc(100vw - 40px)" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-3024" class="wp-caption-text">Crossley family on 1921 census: 35 Farringdon Street.</figcaption></figure>
<p>I knew the couple had stayed together because they had two children who went on to have families of their own: a son, George, born in 1922, as well as a daughter, born in 1925.</p>
<figure id="attachment_3027" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-3027" style="width: 600px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/1922-George-Ebbans-birthcert.jpg"><img decoding="async" class="wp-image-3027" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/1922-George-Ebbans-birthcert.jpg" alt="old birth certificate" width="600" height="326" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-3027" class="wp-caption-text">1922 birth certificate of George Ebbans</figcaption></figure>
<p>George junior&#8217;s birth certificate stated that he was born at 74 Upper Green Lane, so I began to search the newspapers for that address, and struck gold! Through these newspaper reports, I was able to piece together the &#8216;tumultuous&#8217; relationship of George and Sarah Ann.</p>
<p>George Ebbans and Sarah Ann Crossley married in Walsall on 14 June 1917, while George was home on leave from serving in the First World War. Their first child, Renee Victoria Ebbans was born 18 July 1919, and all appeared well with the couple. The following day was Peace Day, and George apparently celebrated a bit too hard, came home drunk, and abused his wife, who was still recovering from giving birth the day before. He also made the vile accusation, that little Renee was actually the child of Sarah Ann&#8217;s father. The 1920 <em>Walsall Observer</em> article recounts several episodes of George&#8217;s abusive behaviour, including an attack on his sister-in-law at George&#8217;s mother&#8217;s house (this would have been 140 Bridgeman Street). George blamed his lack of financial support for his wife and daughter, on his inability to work regularly due to ill-health.</p>
<figure id="attachment_3064" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-3064" style="width: 323px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/1920-Walsall-Observer-20-Feb-1920-p8-c3.jpg"><img decoding="async" class="wp-image-3064 size-full" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/1920-Walsall-Observer-20-Feb-1920-p8-c3.jpg" alt="newspaper clipping" width="323" height="1290" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-3064" class="wp-caption-text">Walsall Observer, 21 Feb 1920, p8, c3</figcaption></figure>
<p>The cycle of abuse, separation, and reunion continued for another five years, with Sarah Ann often taking refuge with her parents at 35 Farringdon Street. During this time, little Renee died (1921), and two sons were born, George (1922) and Sidney (1924) (Sidney died shortly after or at birth). The 1925 <em>Walsall Observer</em> article reported that George would be gaoled (and often) if his refusal to support his wife and child continued.</p>
<figure id="attachment_3026" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-3026" style="width: 300px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/1925-Walsall-Observer-Sat-August-8-1925-.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-3026" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/1925-Walsall-Observer-Sat-August-8-1925-.jpg" alt="clipping from newspaper" width="300" height="577" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-3026" class="wp-caption-text">Walsall Observer, 8 Aug 1925, p5, c2</figcaption></figure>
<p>Sarah Ann had been pregnant at the time of the previous article, and their last child was born in the final quarter of 1925. By February 1926, George had still not given any money to Sarah Ann and was committed to gaol for two months.</p>
<figure id="attachment_3025" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-3025" style="width: 304px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/1926-Walsall-Observer-and-South-Staffordshire-Chronicle-06-February-1926-p4-c5.png"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-3025 size-full" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/1926-Walsall-Observer-and-South-Staffordshire-Chronicle-06-February-1926-p4-c5.png" alt="clipping from newspaper" width="304" height="348" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-3025" class="wp-caption-text">Walsall Observer &amp; South Staffordshire Chronicle, 6 Feb 1926, p4, c5</figcaption></figure>
<p>The last &#8216;sighting&#8217; of George was in the 1930 <em>Birmingham Daily Gazette</em>, when he was sentenced to another three months in prison for owing a whopping £174 in maintenance arrears.</p>
<figure id="attachment_1353" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1353" style="width: 300px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1930-Ebbans-arrears-Birmingham-Daily-Gazette-25-November-1930-p3.png"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1353" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1930-Ebbans-arrears-Birmingham-Daily-Gazette-25-November-1930-p3.png" alt="newspaper clipping" width="300" height="251" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1353" class="wp-caption-text">Birmingham Daily Gazette, 25 November 1930, p3</figcaption></figure>
<p>The 1920 article gave George&#8217;s address as 38 Farringdon Street but he was not there in the 1921 census. Fortunately, I was finally able to locate him by browsing the other Farringdon Street pages/returns. It turns out that in 1921, he was lodging with the Greatrex family at 32 Farringdon Street.</p>
<figure id="attachment_3040" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-3040" style="width: 600px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/1921-George-Ebbans.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-3040" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/1921-George-Ebbans.jpg" alt="1921 census page" width="600" height="276" srcset="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/1921-George-Ebbans.jpg 1627w, https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/1921-George-Ebbans-1536x706.jpg 1536w, https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/1921-George-Ebbans-1568x721.jpg 1568w" sizes="auto, (min-width: 1280px) 840px, (min-width: 1024px) calc(100vw - 460px), (min-width: 652px) 800px, (min-width: 482px) calc(100vw - 80px), calc(100vw - 40px)" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-3040" class="wp-caption-text">George Ebbans on the 1921 census: 32 Farringdon Street</figcaption></figure>
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<p>Where George went, and what he did AFTER 1930 is still a mystery. <strong>Any</strong> information regarding this would be very welcome (rumours or fact). (<a href="https://geneageek.com/contact/">Contact Me</a>)</p>
<h4 style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size: 18pt;">Listen to the episode: <a href="https://geneageek.com/podcast/">A Walsallian Story</a></span></h4>
<h5 style="text-align: center;">Show notes and post-show notes for this episode can be found on <a href="https://geneageek.com/podcast/">the podcast page</a>.</h5>
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		<title>Five Men Drowned &#8211; One Survivor</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 31 May 2022 16:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Continued from previous post: Five Men Drowned &#8211; Three Buried At Sea One Survivor Of the six men who were aboard when a heavy wave swamped a fishing boat on&#8230; </p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: center;">Continued from previous post: <a href="https://geneageek.com/five-men-drowned-three-buried-at-sea/">Five Men Drowned &#8211; Three Buried At Sea</a></p>
<h3>One Survivor</h3>
<p>Of the six men who were aboard when a heavy wave swamped a fishing boat on 9 February 1872, <span style="background-color: var(--global--color-background); color: var(--global--color-primary); font-family: var(--global--font-secondary); font-size: var(--global--font-size-base);">James Buchan was the only survivor</span><span style="background-color: var(--global--color-background); color: var(--global--color-primary); font-family: var(--global--font-secondary); font-size: var(--global--font-size-base);">.</span></p>
<p>Unfortunately, I have been unable to determine exactly WHO this man was since, unlike the men who did not survive, t<span style="background-color: var(--global--color-background); color: var(--global--color-primary); font-family: var(--global--font-secondary); font-size: var(--global--font-size-base);">he newspapers gave no information that could narrow this down.  No age, marital status or family information for James was mentioned in any of the articles. </span><span style="background-color: var(--global--color-background); color: var(--global--color-primary); font-family: var(--global--font-secondary); font-size: var(--global--font-size-base);">There were at least 20 James Buchans recorded in the Lonmay area on the 1871 census. Even after ruling out the ones who were below the age of 15 and above the age of 60, we are still left with 10 possible James Buchans that could have survived that fateful night. So, sadly, this is where the search must end.</span></p>
<figure id="attachment_2854" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-2854" style="width: 407px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/Rattray_Head_Lighthouse.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-2854" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/Rattray_Head_Lighthouse.jpg" alt="footprints in sand with lighthouse in distance" width="407" height="600" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-2854" class="wp-caption-text">Rattray Head Lighthouse by <a href="https://www.flickr.com/people/97595808@N00">Tom Parnell</a></figcaption></figure>
<p>And what about those links to my own family?</p>
<p>Disappointingly, I&#8217;ve also not been able to find any direct link to any of the fishermen involved in this tragedy. If I do manage to find any connection in future, I&#8217;ll be sure to update.<em> <span style="color: #008000;">(See connections update <a style="color: #008000;" href="https://geneageek.com/five-men-drowned-connections/">here</a>)</span></em></p>
<p style="text-align: center;">Posts in this series:<br />
<a href="https://geneageek.com/five-men-drowned/">Five Men Drowned</a><br />
<a href="https://geneageek.com/five-men-drowned-two-recovered/">Five Men Drowned &#8211; Two Recovered</a><br />
<a href="https://geneageek.com/five-men-drowned-three-buried-at-sea/">Five Men Drowned &#8211; Three Buried at Sea</a><br />
Update: <a href="https://geneageek.com/five-men-drowned-connections/">Five Men Drowned &#8211; Connections</a></p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2022 11:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>At about 4 o&#8217;clock on a winter&#8217;s afternoon, off the north east coast of Scotland, a fishing boat was swamped by a heavy wave while returning home from a day&#8217;s work.&#8230; </p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At about 4 o&#8217;clock on a winter&#8217;s afternoon, <span style="background-color: var(--global--color-background); color: var(--global--color-primary); font-family: var(--global--font-secondary); font-size: var(--global--font-size-base);">off the north east coast of Scotland, </span><span style="background-color: var(--global--color-background); color: var(--global--color-primary); font-family: var(--global--font-secondary); font-size: var(--global--font-size-base);">a fishing boat was swamped by a heavy wave while returning home from a day&#8217;s work. Of the six men aboard, only one survived.</span></p>
<p>The tragedy occurred on Friday, 9 February 1872, about three miles from land, just north of Rattray Head. All of the crew were from the village of St Combs, in the parish of Lonmay, Aberdeenshire. As can be imagined, the incident had a devastating effect on the inhabitants of this tiny coastal village.</p>
<figure id="attachment_2792" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-2792" style="width: 618px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/St-Combs-Rattray-Head.png"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-2792 size-full" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/St-Combs-Rattray-Head.png" alt="old map showing St Combs and Rattray Head" width="618" height="386" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-2792" class="wp-caption-text">St Combs and Rattray Head shown on a map c1894</figcaption></figure>
<p>The sole survivor, James Buchan, signed as informant on the death records for his deceased crewmates &#8211; Andrew Buchan (34), Andrew Bruce (24), Charles Bruce (40), Alexander Strachan (50), and Andrew Strachan (20). The cause of death was recorded for all as &#8220;Drowning caused by the upsetting of a boat about 3 miles off the shore of St Combs&#8221;. &#8220;Body not found&#8221; was added in parentheses to the latter three, whose bodies were not recovered.</p>
<p>In following posts, I hope to share more about the lives of these <span style="background-color: var(--global--color-background); color: var(--global--color-primary); font-family: var(--global--font-secondary); font-size: var(--global--font-size-base);">unfortunate fishermen, and uncover the links, if any, to my own family.</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">ABERDEENSHIRE BOAT SWAMPED.</span><br />
<span style="font-size: 12pt;">FIVE FISHERMEN DROWNED.</span><br />
<span style="font-size: 12pt;">About four o&#8217;clock on Friday afternoon a fishing boat belonging to St Comb&#8217;s, parish of Lonmay, having on board a crew of six fishermen, while returning from the fishing, was swamped by a heavy sea when about four miles off the land, and five of the crew were drowned. The names of the unfortunate men are Charles Bruce, aged 40; Andrew Strachan, 20; Alexander Strachan, 50; Andrew Buchan, 34; Andrew Bruce, 25; all fishermen residing in St Comb&#8217;s. The other man, named James Buchan, succeeded in keeping himself afloat by clinging to the oars until a boat which was also returning from the fishing arrived at the scene and rescued him. Two of the bodies were also picked up by the boat, but both were quite dead. The lamentable occurrence has caused a feeling of depression throughout the whole neighbourhood.</span><br />
<span style="font-size: 12pt;">Dundee Courier, 12 February 1872, p2, c6</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="text-decoration-style: dotted; text-decoration-skip-ink: none;"><a style="text-decoration-style: dotted; text-decoration-skip-ink: none;" href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/Buchan-Observer-and-East-Aberdeenshire-Advertiser-16-February-1872-p3-c3.png"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-2788" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/Buchan-Observer-and-East-Aberdeenshire-Advertiser-16-February-1872-p3-c3.png" alt="" width="300" height="299" srcset="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/Buchan-Observer-and-East-Aberdeenshire-Advertiser-16-February-1872-p3-c3.png 478w, https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/Buchan-Observer-and-East-Aberdeenshire-Advertiser-16-February-1872-p3-c3-150x150.png 150w" sizes="auto, (min-width: 1280px) 840px, (min-width: 1024px) calc(100vw - 460px), (min-width: 652px) 800px, (min-width: 482px) calc(100vw - 80px), calc(100vw - 40px)" /></a></span></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">MELANCHOLY OCCURENCE—FIVE MEN DROWNED.—On Friday evening a very melancholy occurrence happened, by which five fishermen were lost at sea. The unfortunate men, who along with another man, had formed a boat&#8217;s crew, had been at the white fishing, and were returning homewards when a little to the north of Rattray Head a heavy sea broke over them, and quite overwhelmed the boat. The man who was saved succeeded in keeping himself afloat by means of oars until a neighbouring crew came to his assistance, but the other five, after a struggle in the broken water, were drowned. Some hours afterwards two of the bodies that had become entangled with the buoys and lines were washed ashore, but the other three remain unrecovered. The fishermen all belonged St. Combs, and the following is a list of their names and ages :—Charles Bruce, 40; Andrew Strachan, 20; Alex. Strachan, 50; Andrew Buchan, 34; and Andrew Bruce, 25. Andrew Strachan was unmarried but each of the others has left a widow and a large family. The bodies of Andrew Buchan and Andrew Bruce were taken ashore in the rescuing boat, and the scene of grief which was witnessed when the sad tidings became known cannot be described.</span><span id="NewspaperTitle"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><br />
Buchan Observer and East Aberdeenshire Advertiser, 16 February 1872, p3, c3</span></span></p></blockquote>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>In a previous post, I included a message from Rose Richards which ended casually with: Cathy had a sister – Nellie Cash. She had a baby and hid it in&#8230; </p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a <a href="https://geneageek.com/bigamy-blues-part-3/">previous post</a>, I included a message from Rose Richards which ended casually with:</p>
<blockquote><p>Cathy had a sister – Nellie Cash. She had a baby and hid it in the chimney. It was found by firemen I think. I don’t know what happened to her. How’s that for a tale?</p></blockquote>
<p>Of course, I needed to find out more&#8230; and it is quite a tale indeed.</p>
<h3>The Mental Defective</h3>
<p>Nellie Cash was born on the 3rd of January 1915 and<span style="background-color: var(--global--color-background); color: var(--global--color-primary); font-family: var(--global--font-secondary); font-size: var(--global--font-size-base);"> her father, sadly, died around the same time. A few years later, in 1918, her mother married Arthur G Morgan and soon after had Nellie&#8217;s half sister, Kathleen (the Cathy mentioned by Rose above). The girls&#8217; mother seems to have died around 1930 and both girls remained with Arthur. </span><span style="background-color: var(--global--color-background); color: var(--global--color-primary); font-family: var(--global--font-secondary); font-size: var(--global--font-size-base);">Nellie, who was said to be a &#8216;mental defective&#8217;,</span><span style="background-color: var(--global--color-background); color: var(--global--color-primary); font-family: var(--global--font-secondary); font-size: var(--global--font-size-base);"> kept house for her stepfather and sister at 19 Sims Avenue, Derby. </span><span style="color: var(--global--color-primary); font-family: var(--global--font-secondary); font-size: var(--global--font-size-base); background-color: var(--global--color-background);">A doctor would later state that &#8220;</span><span style="color: var(--global--color-primary); font-family: var(--global--font-secondary); font-size: var(--global--font-size-base); background-color: var(--global--color-background);">In his opinion it must have been evident to anyone who saw her frequently that she was feeble-minded, unless the person concerned was feeble-minded too.&#8221;</span></p>
<h3>The Body</h3>
<p><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Body-in-Chimney-headlines.png"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-2749" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Body-in-Chimney-headlines.png" alt="newspaper headlines" width="246" height="181" /></a></p>
<p>On 26 February 1938, the body of an infant was recovered by police from the front bedroom of 19 Sims Avenue (reports do not mention who first brought it to their attention). <span style="background-color: var(--global--color-background); color: var(--global--color-primary); font-family: var(--global--font-secondary); font-size: var(--global--font-size-base);">The baby girl, which had been wrapped in a blue frock and placed in a mat bag, was first put into a cupboard and later placed in the bedroom chimney. </span><span style="background-color: var(--global--color-background); color: var(--global--color-primary); font-family: var(--global--font-secondary); font-size: var(--global--font-size-base);">A post mortem examination determined that the baby died due to inattention but had not taken a breath. </span><span style="background-color: var(--global--color-background); color: var(--global--color-primary); font-family: var(--global--font-secondary); font-size: var(--global--font-size-base);">Nellie admitted that she had recently given birth to a child and was taken to the police station to give her statement.</span></p>
<h3>The Affair</h3>
<p>Two years earlier, 21-year-old Nellie had become acquainted with 58-year-old David Dean. Dean, who lived at 36 Cobden Street and had been married for 30 years with three children, kept a tobacconist shop from which Nellie would fetch tobacco for her stepfather.</p>
<figure id="attachment_2747" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-2747" style="width: 320px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/tobacconist.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-2747 size-full" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/tobacconist.jpg" alt="building front of G. Wilcox Ltd " width="320" height="438" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-2747" class="wp-caption-text">A tobacco wholesaler on London Road, Derby (c1930) via <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20210322221133/https://www.theguardian.com/cities/gallery/2017/apr/14/forgotten-shops-derby-ww-winter-archive-photographs-in-pictures">The Guardian</a></figcaption></figure>
<p>At some point, they began some kind of &#8216;relationship&#8217; and Nellie was of the opinion that she was &#8216;going out with him&#8217;. Dean gave a rather dubious account that he had been &#8216;pestered&#8217; by Cash at a time when he had no work to do, and had &#8216;yielded&#8217; to her.</p>
<p>Nellie told the police she had previously given birth to another child of Dean&#8217;s in December 1936 and told him it was dead. She had put the baby in a bag and together they emptied the &#8216;contents&#8217; of the bag in the River Derwent. After Nellie gave birth for a second time on February 17, she told Dean it was dead and he said they would put it in the river.</p>
<figure id="attachment_2743" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-2743" style="width: 314px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Nottingham-Journal-22-June-1938-p1-c2.png"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-2743 size-full" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Nottingham-Journal-22-June-1938-p1-c2.png" alt="newspaper clipping" width="314" height="402" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-2743" class="wp-caption-text">Nottingham Journal, 22 June 1938, p1 c2</figcaption></figure>
<p>Dean was charged <span style="background-color: var(--global--color-background); color: var(--global--color-primary); font-family: var(--global--font-secondary); font-size: var(--global--font-size-base);">under the Mental Deficiency Act </span><span style="background-color: var(--global--color-background); color: var(--global--color-primary); font-family: var(--global--font-secondary); font-size: var(--global--font-size-base);">of &#8216;a serious offence against a woman who was a mental defective&#8217;. He was found guilty and sentenced to six months&#8217; imprisonment.</span></p>
<p>Bail for Nellie was allowed in the sum of £10, on the condition that she went to the Boundary House Institution (the former workhouse and later Manor Hospital). This condition seems to have been agreed to, as Nellie was recorded at the institution the following year on the 1939 register.</p>
<h3>The Aftermath</h3>
<p>In November 1938, Dean&#8217;s wife of 30 years was granted a decree nisi. She had moved to Birmingham, most likely to escape the scandal and gossip her husband&#8217;s actions had caused. Dean&#8217;s offence and imprisonment were given in evidence, and the court was told that he left her to go to the trial and had not been back since.</p>
<figure id="attachment_2744" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-2744" style="width: 472px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Nottingham-Journal-28-November-1938-p1-c4.png"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-2744 size-full" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Nottingham-Journal-28-November-1938-p1-c4.png" alt="newspaper clipping" width="472" height="338" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-2744" class="wp-caption-text">Nottingham Journal, 28 November 1938, p1 c4</figcaption></figure>
<p>Interestingly, 36 Cobden Street was advertised for sale in the Derby Daily Telegraph in August; and again in October at a reduced price. It is not surprising that his wife would want to cut ties and leave the area as soon as possible.</p>
<figure id="attachment_2774" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-2774" style="width: 608px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Derby-Daily-Telegraph-20-August-1938-p3-c3.png"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="size-full wp-image-2774" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Derby-Daily-Telegraph-20-August-1938-p3-c3.png" alt="newspaper clipping" width="608" height="160" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-2774" class="wp-caption-text">Derby Daily Telegraph, 20 August 1938, p3 c3</figcaption></figure>
<figure id="attachment_2773" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-2773" style="width: 607px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Derby-Daily-Telegraph-12-October-1938-p2-c6.png"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-2773 size-full" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Derby-Daily-Telegraph-12-October-1938-p2-c6.png" alt="newspaper clipping" width="607" height="125" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-2773" class="wp-caption-text">Derby Daily Telegraph, 12 October 1938, p2 c6</figcaption></figure>
<p>David Dean served his time and the next year was recorded in the 1939 register at the Church Army Hostel on 20 Bridge Street (albeit with 10 years shaved off his age). He died a few years later in 1942.</p>
<p>As for Nellie, it is unclear how long she stayed at Boundary House but in 1955 she married a man named John O&#8217;Sullivan. I like to think that she lived happily ever after.</p>
<p><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Derby-Daily-Telegraph-01-March-1938-p5-c2.png" alt="" width="250" height="577" /></p>
<blockquote><p>CHILD&#8217;S BODY IN CHIMNEY<br />
HINT OF OTHER PROCEEDINGS<br />
DERBY INQUEST<br />
After hearing a report of a post-mortem examination, a verdict in accordance with the medical evidence that death was due to inattention at birth was returned by the jury at the inquest at Derby, last night, on the child of Nellie Cash, 19, Sims-avenue, Derby.<br />
Detective D. Salter said that accompanied by Inspector Gray he visited Sims-avenue on Saturday and recovered the child&#8217;s body from a chimney in a bedroom.<br />
It was wrapped in a blue frock and had been placed in a mat bag. The body was taken to the mortuary. Detective Salter added that Cash made a statement regarding the child.<br />
DOCTOR&#8217;S EVIDENCE<br />
Dr. G. R. Osborn, who made a post-mortem examination, said there was no evidence to show that the child had a separate existence. Apparently, the baby had not breathed, and death was due to inattention at birth, he added.<br />
Addressing the jury, the Coroner (Mr. T. H. Bishop) said that the body had been found in circumstances which might lead to other proceedings.<br />
<span style="font-size: 16px; font-weight: 400;"><em>Derby Daily Telegraph, 01 March 1938, p5, c2</em></span></p></blockquote>
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<figure id="attachment_2761" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-2761" style="width: 284px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Derby-Daily-Telegraph-22-June-1938-p7.png"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="size-full wp-image-2761" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Derby-Daily-Telegraph-22-June-1938-p7.png" alt="newspaper clipping" width="284" height="774" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-2761" class="wp-caption-text">Derby Daily Telegraph, 22 June 1938, p7</figcaption></figure>
<blockquote><p>CHILD&#8217;S BODY IN CHIMNEY<br />
MENTAL CONDITION OF DERBY GIRL<br />
Mr. Justice Asquith, at Derbyshire Assizes yesterday, postponed judgment on Nellie Cash (23), a housekeeper, of Sims-avenue, Derby, with a view to her being sent to an institution.<br />
She pleaded guilty to having endeavoured to conceal the birth of a child, of which she had been delivered, by a secret disposition of the body.<br />
Describing Cash as a mental defective, Mr. T. N. Winning, prosecuting, stated that if she had been a person of normal intelligence the case would have been very serious. Before the present case Cash had had another child, and she had said that she put the body into a river.<br />
NEVER FOUND<br />
The body had never been found, said Mr. Winning.<br />
In the present case the baby was born when nobody was about, and the child had not had a separate existence.<br />
The body was first put into a cupboard and later was placed up a chimney.<br />
Dr. Ralph G. Cooke, Resident Medical Superintendent at the City Hospital, Derby, said that Cash was a feeble-minded person to such an extent as to bring her within the province of the Mental Deficiency Act.<br />
Cash, who pleaded guilty, was represented by Mr. A. J. Flint (instructed by Messrs. Flint, Marsden and Bishop).<br />
LEATHER-DRESSER SENTENCED<br />
David Dean (59), leather-dresser of Cobden-street, Derby, who admitted one of two counts alleging that he had committed serious offences against Cash &#8211; a mental defective &#8211; was sentenced to six months&#8217; imprisonment.<br />
<span style="font-size: 16px; font-weight: 400;"><em>Derby Daily Telegraph, 22 June 1938, p7</em></span></p></blockquote>
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<p>From the Derby Daily Telegraph, 21 April 1938, p10 c5:</p>
<blockquote><p>LEATHER DRESSER ACCUSED<br />
David Dean (60), a leather-dresser, of 36, Cobden-street, Derby, was accused of a serious offence against a woman who was a mental defective, between January 1 and February 17.<br />
Mr. E. H. Nichols, assistant solicitor to the Derby Corporation, prosecuting, said that the case was brought under the Mental Deficiency Act.<br />
Arthur George Morgan, a labourer, of 19, Sims-avenue, Derby, said that his step-daughter, Nellie Cash, was 23, and kept house for himself and his daughter.<br />
He knew of a tobacconist&#8217;s shop kept by Dean, and Nellie Cash used to go there for his tobacco.<br />
Nellie Cash, who was warned by the Clerk (Colonel W. R. H. Whiston) that she was not obliged answer any questions which might incriminate her, said that she had known Dean for about two years and had been going out with him.<br />
Mr. F. W. Barnett, who represented Dean, objected to further questions.<br />
Dr. Ralph G. Cooke, Resident Medical Superintendent of the City Hospital, Derby, said that Cash was admitted on February 26 last in a debilitated condition.<br />
Her history was that she had given birth to a child on February 17 and her condition was consistent with that.<br />
UNDER OBSERVATION<br />
He had had her under observation, and in his opinion she was a feeble-minded person to a sufficient degree to  bring her within the province of the Mental Deficiency Act.<br />
In his opinion it must have been evident to anyone who saw her frequently that she was feeble-minded, unless the person concerned was feeble-minded too.<br />
Mr. Barnett submitted that the prosecution had failed to make out a case under any criminal charge.<br />
The magistrates decided that there was a prima facie case against Dean, and he was committed for trial at the next Derbyshire Assizes, bail being allowed in the sum of £10.<br />
Dean said that he did not wish to give evidence or to call witnesses.<br />
BODY IN CHIMNEY<br />
Evidence of a child&#8217;s body being recovered from a chimney was given when Cash, who was described as a housekeeper of 19, Sims-avenue, Derby, was accused of endeavouring to conceal the birth on February 17 of a female child, of which she had been delivered, by the secret disposition of its body. Detective-constable D. Salter said that he saw Cash at her home on February 26, and after being cautioned she admitted that she had recently given birth to a child. He took her to the police station, where she made a statement.<br />
The officer read this statement, in which Cash was alleged to have stated that she gave birth to a child in December, 1936, and she told Dean it was dead.<br />
She had put the baby in a bag, the statement added, had gone out with Dean, and he had emptied the contents of the bag in the River Derwent.<br />
The statement added that she gave birth to another baby on February 17 this year, and when she told Dean it was dead he said they would put it in the river.<br />
In the statement Cash alleged that Dean was the father of both the children born to her.<br />
WRAPPED IN FROCK<br />
Detective Salter added that Cash took him to the front bedroom of her home, and he recovered from the chimney the body of a female child which was wrapped in an old blue frock and in a bag.<br />
Dr. G. R. Osborne, pathologist at Derbyshire Royal Infirmary, said that a post mortem examination disclosed that the baby born in February had not had a separate existence, and death was due to inattention at birth.<br />
Cash was committed for trial at Derbyshire Assizes, Mr. F. W. Barnett, who appeared on her behalf, offering no objection.<br />
Bail was allowed in the sum of £10, on condition that she went to Boundary House.<br />
<span style="font-size: 16px; font-weight: 400;"><em>Derby Daily Telegraph, 21 April 1938, p10 c5</em></span></p>
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<p>From the Nottingham Journal, 22 June 1938, p1, c2:</p>
<blockquote><p>DEAD BABY CHARGE<br />
Sentence on Woman Postponed<br />
-Prison for Derby Man<br />
Nellie Cash (23), housekeeper, a Derby woman, was at Derby Assizes yesterday accused of secretly disposing of the dead body of a child in an endeavour to conceal the birth, and was stated to be a mental defective. Sentence was postponed by Mr. Justice Asquith with a view to her being sent to a mental institution.<br />
David Dean (59), an unemployed Derby man, was accused of an offence against the woman, knowing her to be mentally defective.<br />
On Dean&#8217;s behalf, Mr. A. R. Flint pointed out that he had been &#8220;pestered&#8221; by Cash at a time when he had no work to do, and he had yielded to her.<br />
Dean was sentenced to six months&#8217; imprisonment.<br />
<span style="font-size: 16px; font-weight: 400;"><em>Nottingham Journal, 22 June 1938, p1, c2</em></span></p>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>In 1901, Thomas Henry WHEELEY and Ann ROGERS had been married for 23 years and had had 8 children together.  They were living on Dalkeith Street in Walsall &#8211; a&#8230; </p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In 1901, Thomas Henry WHEELEY and Ann ROGERS had been married for 23 years and had had 8 children together.  They were living on Dalkeith Street in Walsall &#8211; a row of terraced houses built alongside the Walsall Locks less than ten years before (<a href="https://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/staffs/vol17/pp146-165">in the early 1890s</a>). Thomas was a &#8216;brown saddler&#8217; living in &#8220;<a href="https://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/staffs/vol17/pp146-165">a poor locality</a>&#8221; so life was probably not easy for the family.</p>
<figure id="attachment_1921" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1921" style="width: 722px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1901-wheeley.png"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1921 size-full" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1901-wheeley.png" alt="Snippet of the 1901 census page" width="722" height="217" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1921" class="wp-caption-text">Thomas Henry Wheeley and Ann Rogers on the 1901 census</figcaption></figure>
<p>On Saturday the 20th May, 1905 &#8211; only a few years after the census was taken &#8211; the family had &#8216;a quarrel&#8217;. Thomas who had been out drinking, came home and argued with Ann, calling her names. Ann, in turn, threatened to throw a saucer at him and Thomas attacked her with a knife. Their 18-year-old son, George Alfred,  seeing this take place, struggled with his father and was subsequently hit on the head with some tongs [Not sure if these would be saddler tongs or coal tongs or another type). Ann had managed to escape the house during the scuffle and discovered she had been cut on the wrist.</p>
<figure id="attachment_1918" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1918" style="width: 298px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1918 size-full" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1905-Walsall-Advertiser-27-May-1905-p6-c7.png" alt="newspaper article" width="298" height="345" /><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1918" class="wp-caption-text">Walsall Advertiser 27 May 1905 p6 c7</figcaption></figure>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #008000;">BEER, AND A QUARREL.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;">A saddler named Thomas Wheeley (53), of 91, Dalkeith Street, was charged with unlawfully wounding Ann Wheeley, his wife, with a knife, and also with violently assaulting Alfred Wheeley, his son, by hitting him on the head with a pair of tongs. -The police authorities agreed to withdraw the charges, and substitute charges of common assault only. -The story for the prosecution was that on Saturday night the man Wheeley went home under the influence of drink, and a quarrel, arose. He called his wife a bad name, and she threatened to throw a saucer at him. During the quarrel she found that she had received a wound on the wrist, and went out of the house. -The son&#8217;s evidence was to the effect that he saw his father with a knife, and struggled with him. He succeeded in getting his mother out of the house, but while he was doing so he was struck on the head with the tongs. -Dr Mackenzie-in-Thurm (house surgeon at the hospital) said he attended to the woman&#8217;s injured wrist. There was only a small punctured wound. It was not serious. -The magistrates sentenced Wheeley to 14 days&#8217; imprisonment.  (</span><span style="color: #008000;">Walsall Advertiser 27 May 1905 p6 c7)</span></p></blockquote>
<p>I find it interesting that &#8220;the police authorities agreed to withdraw the charges, and substitute charges of common assault only&#8221;. Who requested the charges be withdrawn/substituted? Common assault is a lesser charge than &#8216;unlawfully wounding&#8217; or &#8216;violently assaulting&#8217; <a href="https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/blog/post/assault-offences-explained/">[source]</a> and so appears to minimise Thomas&#8217; actions. Was the switch to a lesser charge because: a) there was a lack of evidence of more serious injuries; b) prosecution were more likely to secure a conviction this way; or c) the general view that domestic violence was less serious?</p>
<p>Thomas&#8217; two-week stint in prison for the assaults seemed to have little effect. A few weeks later, the couple were living at separate addresses &#8211; Thomas on Cannon Street and Ann at 481 Pleck Road &#8211; when Ann requested a separation order to support her and their four remaining dependent children &#8211; Sidney, Ernest, Grace Hilda and Maria (whose ages ranged from 14 to 7).</p>
<figure id="attachment_1917" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1917" style="width: 346px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/persistent-cruelty.png"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1917 size-full" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/persistent-cruelty.png" alt="newspaper article" width="346" height="237" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1917" class="wp-caption-text">Walsall Advertiser 24 June 1905 p2 c5</figcaption></figure>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #008000;">PERSISTENT CRUELTY.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;">Thomas Henry Wheeley, Cannon Street, was summoned for persistent cruelty to his wife, who applied for an order against him. -Complainant stated that she had been obliged to leave her husband because of his persistent cruelty. She had been married 29 years and had eight children, four of which were depending upon her. Her husband had assaulted her several times and was always threatening her. She had had seven pair of black eyes in less than three months. -The Chairman (to defendant): How many black eyes have you given her since you were married? -Two, that&#8217;s all sir. -An order for 10s a week was eventually made.  (Walsall Advertiser 24 June 1905 p2 c5-6)</span></p></blockquote>
<p>In 1895, the &#8216;Summary Jurisdiction (Married Women) Act&#8217; was introduced. It allowed married women to apply to the magistrates&#8217; courts for separation and maintenance orders if their husbands had:</p>
<blockquote><p>i. been convicted of an aggravated assault under S.43 of the Offences Against The Persons Act 1861<br />
ii been convicted on indictment for assault and sentenced to at least two months imprisonment or fined £5<br />
iii. deserted them<br />
iv. been guilty of persistent cruelty so as to make their wives leave home.<br />
v. wilfully neglected to maintain so as to cause their wives to leave home.</p>
<p><span style="font-size: 16px; font-style: normal;">(Radford, M. T. (1988) </span><em style="font-size: 16px;">The law and domestic violence against women.</em><span style="font-size: 16px; font-style: normal;"> PhD Thesis. University of Bradford. Available from: <a href="https://bradscholars.brad.ac.uk/handle/10454/3875">https://bradscholars.brad.ac.uk/handle/10454/3875</a> (Accessed: 13 May 2020), page 38)</span></p></blockquote>
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<p>Ann applied for an order of separation on the grounds of his persistent cruelty and subsequent articles definitely paint a picture of an unhappy marriage marred with &#8216;persistent cruelty&#8217; and alcohol abuse.</p>
<figure style="width: 418px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="mw-mmv-final-image jpg" src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/30/Coal_hod_%281904_ad%29.jpg" alt="image of coal hod for sale in 1904" width="418" height="330" crossorigin="anonymous" /><figcaption class="wp-caption-text">A coal hod for sale in 1904 &#8211; Thomas was witnessed to have struck his wife Ann with one.</figcaption></figure>
<p>Ann told the court that her husband had &#8216;never treated her kindly&#8217; and that she had had &#8216;seven pair of black eyes in less than three months&#8217;. Thomas denied this and claimed he had &#8216;only&#8217; given her two and struck her &#8216;no more than three times&#8217;. Ann also claimed that Thomas had hit her on the head with a coal hod &#8211; a claim supported by their 25 year old daughter, Blanche who witnessed the incident. Blanche also confirmed that her father had &#8216;frequently&#8217; given her mother black eyes. However she also said that her mother had also &#8216;been under the influence of drink&#8217; but this had not been for some time since &#8220;she has not had the money&#8221;.</p>
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<figure id="attachment_1916" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1916" style="width: 358px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1916 size-full" style="font-size: 19.2px; font-style: italic;" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1905-Walsall-Observer-and-South-Staffordshire-Chronicle-24-June-1905-p2c5.png" alt="newspaper article" width="358" height="507" /><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1916" class="wp-caption-text">Walsall Observer, and South Staffordshire Chronicle 24 June 1905 p2 c5</figcaption></figure>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #008000;">SEVEN PAIRS OF BLACK EYES IN SIX MONTHS &#8211;</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;">Thomas Wheeley, saddler, Cannon Street, was summoned by his wife, Ann Wheeley, of 481, Pleck Road, who sought to obtain a separation order on the ground of his persistent cruelty. -Complainant stated that she had been married 29 years, and of her eight children four were dependent upon her. Her husband, who was resently [sic] sent to prison for stabbing her in the wrist, had said that he had done 14 days, and he would yet do 14 years for her. He had never treated her kindly, and a few weeks ago he had struck her on the head with a coal hod. He had given her seven pairs of black eyes in less than six months. Since he came out of prison he had continually threatened what he would do to her. -She denied, in cross-examination by defendant that he had not struck her more than three times since they had been married. -In reply to a question from the Bench, defendant said he had only given his wife two black eyes, and she denied that she had been locked up for being drunk. -Blanche Marston, daughter, also spoke to her father&#8217;s ill-treatment of her mother, and said that he had frequently given her black eyes; she did not know how many. She saw him strike her with the coal hod. She admitted that her mother had been under the influence of drink, but not for some time. &#8220;She has not had the money,&#8221; she added, amid laughter. Since her father came back from gaol his language had been unbearable. -Complainant was re-called, and asked for 10s. a week. -An order was made for that amount.  (Walsall Observer, and South Staffordshire Chronicle 24 June 1905 p2 c5)</span></p></blockquote>
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<p>Despite the 1895 act, it&#8217;s clear that domestic violence was still not regarded as seriously as it should. Thomas&#8217; seemingly casual, or even blasé attitude regarding the violence he actually admits to inflicting on his wife indicates that beating your wife was largely seen as &#8216;fine&#8217; depending on its regularity or severity. A woman&#8217;s options were very limited and there were many reasons a wife would remain with an abusive husband &#8211; whether financial, emotional or social.</p>
<p>For whatever reasons, Thomas and Ann were together again by the 1911 census.</p>
<figure id="attachment_1933" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1933" style="width: 895px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1911-wheeley.png"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1933 size-full" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1911-wheeley.png" alt="Snippet of the 1911 census page" width="895" height="292" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1933" class="wp-caption-text">Wheeley family on the 1911 census (130 Bridgeman Street)</figcaption></figure>
<p>I was completely unaware of the events of 1905 until recently. Thomas and Ann appeared in every census together since their marriage in 1878 (1881-1911) so I didn&#8217;t expect there to have been such a rift. We like or want to believe that the families we research lived peacefully together despite their often difficult lives. My discovery of these newspaper articles reminded me this is often not the case.</p>
<p>The census is only a &#8216;snapshot&#8217; every ten years &#8211; it&#8217;s important to remember this. A lot can happen between these &#8216;snapshots&#8217;. Just as living at the same address two censuses in a row doesn&#8217;t always mean they&#8217;d actually been there all that time, a family simply living together does not always mean their lives were harmonious all that time.</p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;">This family is also featured in</span> <a href="https://geneageek.com/wheeley-interesting/">Wheeley Interesting</a> <span style="color: #008000;">and</span> <a href="https://geneageek.com/wheeley-interesting-sequel/">Wheeley Interesting Sequel</a><span style="color: #008000;">.</span></p>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>My mother&#8217;s recollections of her grandfather, Eduard LEMMENS, included his involvement in a serious car accident. She believed it occurred in a chauffered car in Switzerland which led to maybe&#8230; </p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<figure id="attachment_1781" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1781" style="width: 400px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1933-May-13-de-zeewacht-citroen.png"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1781 size-full" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1933-May-13-de-zeewacht-citroen-e1592318225432.png" alt="" width="400" height="247" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1781" class="wp-caption-text">&#8216;The New Citroen&#8217; was advertised in the newspaper reporting on Eduard&#8217;s accident (De Zeewacht, 1933 May 13)</figcaption></figure>
<p>My mother&#8217;s recollections of her grandfather, Eduard LEMMENS, included his involvement in a serious car accident. She believed it occurred in a chauffered car in Switzerland which led to maybe brain damage or a coma but she was not sure. I have since been able to find mention of this accident and the serious injuries obtained through Eduard&#8217;s local newspapers at the time (via the <a href="http://god.biboostende.be/">Stad en Zee Oostende</a> site).</p>
<p>On the 5th of December 1931, Eduard Lemmens (then living on Nieuwpoort Avenue in Westende, Belgium) was involved in a traffic accident.  He had been travelling as a taxi passenger along Albert Avenue (<del>which I have been unable to locate</del><span style="color: #008000;"> see update below</span>) in Ghent (not Switzerland), when the vehicle collided with another car and was overturned. &#8220;As a result of the very violent impact, the last car, carrying three travellers, crashed while Van Pottelsberghe&#8217;s car swerved and stamped the car of beer merchant Haerinckx, domiciled in Dendermonde, Mont-St-Amand.&#8221; (Le Littoral, 20 May 1933, p3 c2)</p>
<figure id="attachment_1782" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1782" style="width: 296px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1931-Dec-12-1.png"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1782 size-full" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1931-Dec-12-1.png" alt="" width="296" height="175" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1782" class="wp-caption-text">Initial report of accident &#8211; Le Littoral, 1931 Dec 12, p4 c1</figcaption></figure>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #008000;">Ostend biesse in Ghent</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Last Saturday, one of our fellow citizens, Mr. Edouard Lemmens, was driving in a taxi with three other people along Albert Avenue in Ghent. Arriving at the corner of a street, the taxi was hit/overturned by a car.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">The occupants were immediately removed and Mr. Lemmens, who had a head injury and a face injury, was taken to a clinic. We wish him a speedy recovery.</span></p>
<p>Ostendais biesse à Gand<br />
Samedi dernier, un de nos concitoyens, M. Edouard Lemmens roulait dans un taxi avec trois autres personnes le long de l&#8217;avenue Albert a Gand. Arrive au coin d&#8217;une rue le taxi fut renverse par une auto.</p>
<p>On retira aussitot les occupants et M. Lemmens, blesse a la tete et au visage fut transporte dans une clinique. Nous lui souhaitons prompte guerison</p>
<p>(Le Littoral, 12 Dec 1931, p4 c1)</p></blockquote>
<p>Eduard suffered what seemed to be a serious head injury as initial signs of recovery were only reported on a few weeks later. He was rendered unable to work as the entire left side of his body had been paralysed, and attended further appointments in a Ghent clinic.</p>
<figure id="attachment_1767" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1767" style="width: 315px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1932-Jan-3.png"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1767 size-full" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1932-Jan-3.png" alt="" width="315" height="100" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1767" class="wp-caption-text">Le Littoral, 1932 Jan 3, p3 c3</figcaption></figure>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #008000;">Convalescence.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">We are pleased to learn that Mr. Edouard Lemmens, who was recently injured in a car accident, is on the road to recovery.</span></p>
<p>Convalescence.<br />
Nous sommes heureux d&#8217;apprendre que M. Edouard Lemmens, qui fut recemment blesse dans un accident d&#8217;auto, est en bonne voie de guerison.</p>
<p>(Le Littoral, 3 Jan 1932, p3 c3)</p></blockquote>
<p>In 1932, a court date was set for the prosecution of the driver of the other vehicle, Mr Van Pottelsberghe but the court&#8217;s decision wasn&#8217;t actually reached until May the next year.</p>
<figure id="attachment_1768" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1768" style="width: 225px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1932-Mar-19.png"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1768 size-full" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1932-Mar-19.png" alt="" width="225" height="273" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1768" class="wp-caption-text">De Zeewacht, 1932 Mar 19, p6 c4</figcaption></figure>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #008000;">Court of Ghent</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;">It is on the 11th of April in Ghent that the case of the car accident, of which M. Ed. Lemmens is the victim. It is M. Van Pottelsberghe who is being prosecuted.</span></p>
<p>Rechtbank van Gent<br />
Het is op 11 April dat te Gent de zaak opgeroepen wodt van het autoogeval, waarvan M. Ed. Lemmens het slachtoffer is. &#8216;t Is M. Van Pottelsberghe die vervolgd wordt.</p>
<p>(De Zeewacht, 19 Mar 1932, p6 c4)</p></blockquote>
<p>The driver of the other vehicle, Albert Van Pottelsberghe was an &#8216;entrepreneur&#8217; of Erenbodegem, but I have been unable to find any other information on him. He was found responsible and sentenced &#8216;on account of involuntary injuries caused by carelessness&#8217; and &#8216;violation of traffic regulations&#8217;. Van Pottelsberghe was ordered to pay 93, 058 francs to Eduard to compensate for the past two years.</p>
<p>[One article mentioned the &#8220;capital that will be given to him is 880,000 francs&#8221; but I&#8217;m unsure as to what this means with regards to the 93, 058 francs already awarded to Lemmens.]</p>
<figure id="attachment_1770" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1770" style="width: 227px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1933-May-13-De-Zeewacht-Accident-court-decision-1.png"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1770 size-full" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1933-May-13-De-Zeewacht-Accident-court-decision-1.png" alt="" width="227" height="515" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1770" class="wp-caption-text">De Zeewacht, 1933 May 13, p4 c2</figcaption></figure>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #008000;">Courts</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;">PENALTY COURT OF GENT</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;">An old car accident. &#8211; On 5 December 1931, the car of Mr. Van Pottelsberghe, contractor in Eerembodeghem, ended up on the taxi of Mr. Jules Van Ertvelde, Albertlaan in Ghent, which was knocked over with the result that the three occupants were hurt: the taxi driver Van Ertvelde, M.M. Edouard Lemmens, living at Nieuwpoortlaan in Westende and Georges Stinon, employee in Schaerbeek. The investigation regarding this case seemed without end, although the responsibility of Van Pottelberghe, from the beginning was assumed. The investigation was particularly directed towards the situation of Mr. Lemmens, who was beaten totally incompetent to work, as the entire left side of his body was paralysed. All the strikes by doctors confirmed this and the victim had to submit himself to treatments in a clinic in Ghent. On Tuesday morning the case was summoned to the fining court in Ghent. After the pleadings the following verdict was pronounced: Van Pottelsberghe is sentenced on account of involuntary injuries caused by carelessness to pay a fine of 2,100 francs or a month&#8217;s imprisonment, on account of violation of the traffic regulations to twice 210 francs, a fine or 9 days and to pay the following fees: 250 francs to Stinon, 9,157 to Van Ertvelde and 93,058 francs, to Ed. Lemmens, this already preliminary title and subject to the possible worse consequences. The payment granted to M. Lemmens represents the compensation for the two past years. The capital that will be given to him is 880,000 francs.</span></p>
<p>Rechtbanken</p>
<p>BOETSTRAFFELIJKE RECHTBANK VAN GENT<br />
Een oud autoongeval. — Een Oostendenaar die eene vergoeding bekomt.Den 5 December 1931 kwam de auto van den heer Van Pottelsberghe, aannemer te Eerembodeghem, terecht op de taxi van heer Jules Van Ertvelde, Albertlaan te Gent, die omgestooten werd met het gevolg dat de drie inzittenden gekwetst werden: de taxivoerder Van Ertvelde, M.M. Edouard Lemmens, wonende Nieuwpoortlaan te Westende en Georges Stinon, bediende te Schaerbeek. Het onderzoek nopens deze zaak scheen zonder einde, alhoewel de verantwoordelijkheid van Van Pottelberghe, van den beginne aangenomen werd. Het onderzoek was bijzonder gericht tegenover den toestand van M. Lemmens, die totaal onbekwaam tot werken geslagen word, daar heel de linkerkant van zijn lijf verlamd is. Alle slag van dokters bestatigden zulks en het slachtoffer moest zich zelf onderwerpen aan behandelingen in een Gentsche kliniek. Dinsdag morgen werd die zaak voor de boetstraffelijke rechtbank van Gent opgeroepen. Na de pleidooien werd het volgende vonnis uitgesproken: Van Pottelsberghe wordt veroordeeld uit hoofde van onvrijwillige kwetsuren door onvoorzichtigheid veroorzaakt tot het betalen van eene boete van 2.100 fr. of een maand gevangenis, uit hoofde van overtreding op het reglement voor het verkeer tot tweemaal 210 fr, boete of 9 dagen en tot betaling van de volgende vergoedingen: 250 fr. aan Stinon, 9.157 aan Van Ertvelde en 93.058 fr, aan Ed. Lemmens, dit al ten voorloopigen titel en onder voorbehoud van de mogelijke ergere gevolgen. De betaling toegekend aan M. Lemmens vertegenwoordigt de vergoeding voor de twee verloopene jaren. Het kapitaal, dat hem zal geschonken worden is van 880.000 frank.</p>
<p>(De Zeewacht, 13 May 1933, p4 c2)</p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<figure id="attachment_1765" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1765" style="width: 314px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1933-May-20-Le-Littoral-accident-outcome.png"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1765 size-full" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1933-May-20-Le-Littoral-accident-outcome.png" alt="" width="314" height="559" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1765" class="wp-caption-text">Le Littoral, 1933 May 20, p3 c2</figcaption></figure>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #008000;">Courts of law</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;">Low allowance to a fellow citizen who is the victim of a car accident</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;">On 5 December 1931, the entrepreneur Albert Van Pottelsberghe, residing in Erembodegem, unleashed his car in Albert Avenue, Ghent, and collided with the car driven by the driver Jules Van Ertvelde, living on the said avenue. As a result of the very violent impact, the last car, carrying three travellers, crashed while Van Pottelsberghe&#8217;s car swerved and stamped the car of beer merchant Haerinckx, domiciled in Dendermonde, Mont-St-Amand.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">This accident CAUSED three VICTIMS, the driver Van Ertvelde and two of the passengers, Georges Stienon, employee, residing on Felix Marchal Avenue, in Schaerbeek and Edouard Lemmens, residing on Nieuwpoort Avenue, in Westende. The investigation proved that Van Pottelsberghe was responsible for the accident. He appeared Tuesday morning before the Ghent Criminal Court, which sentences her to a fine of 2,100 francs or one month&#8217;s imprisonment for unintentional injuries due to carelessness, for violating the driving regulations at a fine of 210 francs or 9 days, and for paying the following damages: 250 francs to Stienon; 9,157 francs to Van Ertvelde and 92,053 francs to Lemmens, all provisional and subject to possible future action.</span></p>
<p>Tribunaux<br />
Maigre allocation a un coneitoyen victime d&#8217;un accident d&#8217;auto<br />
Le 5 decembre 1931, l&#8217;entrepreneur Albert Van Pottelsberghe, demeurant a Erembodegem, deboucha avec son auto a l&#8217;avenue Albert, a Gand, et y entrea en collision avec la voiture conduite parle chauffeur Jules Van Ertvelde, habitant ladite avenue. Par suite du choc, tres violent, la derniere auto, transportant trois voyaguers, culbuta tandis que la voiture de Van Pottelsberghe fit une embardee et tamponna l&#8217;auto-camion du marchand de biere Haerinckx, domicilie chaussee de Termonde, a Mont-St-Amand.<br />
Cet accident fit trois victimes, le chauffeur Van Ertvelde et deux des voyageurs, Georges Stienon, employe, demeurant avenue Felix Marchal, a Schaerbeek et Edouard Lemmens, habitant avenue de Nieuport, a Westende. L&#8217;enquete prouva que la responsabilite de l&#8217;accident etait imputable a Van Pottelsberghe. Celui-ci a comparu mardi matin devant le tribunal correctionnel de Gand qui la condamne, du chef de blessures involontaires par imprudence, a 2,100 francs d&#8217;amende ou un mois de prison, pour enfreinte aux reglements sur le roulage a deux fois 210 frs d&#8217;amende ou 9 jours, et au paiement des dommages-interets suivants: 250 francs a Stienon; 9.157 francs a Van Ertvelde et 92.053 francs a Lemmens, le tout a tilre provisoire et sous reserve des suite futures possibles.</p>
<p>(Le Littoral, 20 May 1933, p3 c2)</p></blockquote>
<p>Obviously being paralysed on one side of his body, would have a profound effect on his life but it doesn&#8217;t mention if the paralysis was temporary or permanent. He must&#8217;ve been a determined man as he was still able to add two more children to the family (for a total of 10!) despite his injuries (Frederick b. Feb 1933 and Micheline b. Jun 1935). My mother also recalls that they &#8216;ran chateaus&#8217; and that her grandmother &#8216;ran the house as a Bed &amp; Breakfast&#8217;. Although not mentioned in the articles, Eduard had previously worked in banking so perhaps the accident prevented him from continuing that career and the family needed to make a living in this new way (making use of the compensation money). Or perhaps they had already started this new business before the accident. Hopefully, the answers can be found one day in other family members.</p>
<p>Translated mostly with <a href="http://www.DeepL.com/Translator">www.DeepL.com/Translator</a> with some alterations.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #008000;">Update: </span></strong></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;">Since posting, a distant Lemmens cousin helpfully explained that Albert became king so the avenue &#8216;Albertlaan&#8217; was renamed &#8216;Koning Albertlaan&#8217; (King Albert Avenue). King Albert I died in 1934 &#8211; the year after this accident.  I have been able to find <a href="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/28/1930_Belgium_Luxemburg_Street_Plan_Gand_Gent.jpg">a 1930 map</a> (in french) that names this street &#8216;Boulevard Albert&#8217;.</span></p>
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<p>Newspapers are &#8216;<em>da bomb</em>&#8216; for finding out information about relatives but it&#8217;s important to widen searches for different spellings, variations and even other family members. This time, searching just the name Rollett (it helps that it&#8217;s not too common), brought up an article I hadn&#8217;t seen before:</p>
<figure id="attachment_1738" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1738" style="width: 504px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1876.00-Nottingham-Journal-20-March-1876-p4-c2.png"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1738 size-full" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1876.00-Nottingham-Journal-20-March-1876-p4-c2.png" alt="" width="504" height="204" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1738" class="wp-caption-text">Nottingham Journal, 20 March 1876, p4 c2</figcaption></figure>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #008000;">USING OBSCENE LANGUAGE &#8211; Hannah Rollett was charged with using obscene language in Walker lane, on Wednesday last, to the annoyance of Sarah Ann Rollett, and fined 40s. and costs, or, in default, one month with hard labour. -Ann Wright was charged with a similar offence in the Market place and Bold lane, to the annoyance of John Rollett, on Wednesday last, and fined 40s. and costs, or, in default, one month with hard labour.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;">Nottingham Journal, 20 March 1876, p4 c2</span></p></blockquote>
<p>Typical of the Hannah I&#8217;d come to know and love, and interesting that it involved Alexander&#8217;s sister, Sarah Ann, again. But underneath, the next case also involved a Rollett and I was wondering if there was a connection when I noticed the name &#8216;Ann Wright&#8217;. I know that Hannah had a sister, <a href="https://geneageek.com/1623-2/">Ann</a>, who married a Wright in 1872. Could this be her? Were they all arguing together &#8211; siblings against siblings? And who was this John Rollett?</p>
<p>It was only a couple days later that a different search revealed more information:</p>
<figure id="attachment_1737" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1737" style="width: 499px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1876.0-Derby-Mercury-22-March-1876-p2-c5.png"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1737 size-full" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1876.0-Derby-Mercury-22-March-1876-p2-c5.png" alt="" width="499" height="204" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1737" class="wp-caption-text">Derby Mercury, 22 March 1876, p2 c5</figcaption></figure>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #008000;">Hannah Rollett was charged in her absence with using obscene language to the special annoyance of Sarah Ann Rollett, her sister-in-law, in Workhouse-yard, Walker-lane. -Fined 40s. and costs, or one month&#8217;s imprisonment.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;">Ann Wright was charged in her absence with using obscene language to the special annoyance of Alexander Rollett, the husband of the last defendant. The affair took place in consequence of the complainant demanding his child, which had been under Wright&#8217;s care. -Fined 40s. and costs, or one month&#8217;s imprisonment, with hard labour.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;">Derby Mercury, 22 March 1876, p2 c5</span></p></blockquote>
<figure id="attachment_1754" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1754" style="width: 806px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/Derby-c1899.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1754 size-full" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/Derby-c1899.jpg" alt="" width="806" height="731" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1754" class="wp-caption-text">Derby c1899 map showing places mentioned in the articles (Blue line marks Bold Lane)</figcaption></figure>
<p>The extra details indicate that this was indeed a &#8216;family affair&#8217; so it&#8217;s more than likely this Ann Wright was in fact, Hannah&#8217;s sister. We know that her first daughter, Sarah Jane, was &#8216;under Wright&#8217;s care&#8217; in 1881 where they appear in the census together. Sarah Jane would have been aged 4 at the time of this article but it could also refer to his son, Richard William who would have been nearly 2 years old. By 1881, &#8216;William&#8217; was living with his father and his live-in-lover, <a href="https://geneageek.com/the-hannah-chronicles-shocking-immorality/">Selina Banks</a>. [Hannah was 3 months pregnant with John William at the time.]</p>
<figure id="attachment_1675" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1675" style="width: 523px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1881-Bates-Wright.png"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1675 size-full" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1881-Bates-Wright.png" alt="" width="523" height="92" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1675" class="wp-caption-text">1881 census &#8211; Bonsall &#8211; Sarah Jane living with her aunt, Ann</figcaption></figure>
<figure id="attachment_1748" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1748" style="width: 517px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1881-Richard-William-with-father.png"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1748 size-full" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1881-Richard-William-with-father.png" alt="" width="517" height="109" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1748" class="wp-caption-text">1881 census -Derby (Nun St) &#8211; Richard William living with his father, Alexander</figcaption></figure>
<figure id="attachment_1749" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1749" style="width: 562px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1881-John-with-mother.png"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1749 size-full" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1881-John-with-mother.png" alt="" width="562" height="84" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1749" class="wp-caption-text">1881 census &#8211; Derby (Willow Row) &#8211; John William living with his mother, Hannah</figcaption></figure>
<p>It seems a bit rich that Alexander and his sister would take his wife and sister-in-law to court based on their language &#8211; they were hardly beacons of modesty. The move seemed designed to antagonise but it is hard to say who was in the right here as neither parent seemed like a great role model. A few months later, Alexander was involved in a &#8216;<a href="https://geneageek.com/hannah-in-excelsis/">murderous assault on a policeman</a>&#8216;; the next year, Hannah committed her own &#8216;<a href="https://geneageek.com/the-hannah-chronicles-murderous-attack/">murderous attack</a>&#8216;; and a few years later, Hannah and Alexander would again argue over custody of their children which caused newspapers to report on their <a href="https://geneageek.com/the-hannah-chronicles-shocking-immorality/">&#8216;Shocking Immorality&#8217;</a>.</p>
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		<title>The Hannah Chronicles: A Disorderly House</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>&#160; Hannah Bates/Rollett and William Henry Lamb were not ones to live life quietly it seems. In January of 1886, they were subjects of a raid where it was found&#8230; </p>
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<figure id="attachment_1714" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1714" style="width: 382px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1886.1-Nottingham-Evening-Post-27-January-1886-p2-c4.png"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1714 size-full" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1886.1-Nottingham-Evening-Post-27-January-1886-p2-c4-e1592318483243.png" alt="" width="382" height="400" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1714" class="wp-caption-text">Nottingham Evening Post, 27 Jan 1886, p2 c4</figcaption></figure>
<p>Hannah Bates/Rollett and William Henry Lamb were not ones to live life quietly it seems. In January of 1886, they were subjects of a raid where it was found they, along with some neighbours, were keeping a &#8216;disorderly house&#8217;.</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #008000;">At the Derby Borough Police-court, to-day&#8230; Edward and Patience Helmsley, husband and wife were charged on a warrant with keeping a disorderly house at House 7, Court 3, Willow-row, between January 16th and 24th&#8230; </span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;">-Similar penalties were imposed in a similar charge against William Lamb and Hannah Rollit, of House 4, Court 3, Willow-row. Detective Clay stated that most of the persons who entered the house were young men. Prisoners, who had lived together for two years, were found guilty. There were five minor convictions against the man, and six against the woman. </span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;">Nottingham Evening Post, 27 Jan 1886, p2 c4</span></p></blockquote>
<p>The neighbours in House 7 appear to have held the most serious charge as they appear first in reports.</p>
<p>The <em>Nottingham Journal</em> (28 Jan 1886) was less euphemistic when they reported a &#8220;RAID ON BROTHEL KEEPERS&#8221;.</p>
<p>Upon being read the warrant, Patience Helmsley had asked &#8220;Why don&#8217;t you do them up No. 1 court as well?&#8221; which indicates this was a relatively common thing in the court houses of Willow Row. &#8220;In consequence of complaints he and Sergeant Dexter watched the houses in this this court&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<figure id="attachment_1718" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1718" style="width: 491px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1886.2-Nottingham-Journal-28-January-1886-p6c1-2-a.png"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1718 size-full" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1886.2-Nottingham-Journal-28-January-1886-p6c1-2-a.png" alt="" width="491" height="292" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1718" class="wp-caption-text">Nottingham Journal, 28 January 1886, p6 c1</figcaption></figure>
<figure id="attachment_1719" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1719" style="width: 475px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1886.2-Nottingham-Journal-28-January-1886-p6c1-2-b.png"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1719 size-full" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1886.2-Nottingham-Journal-28-January-1886-p6c1-2-b.png" alt="" width="475" height="848" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1719" class="wp-caption-text">Nottingham Journal, 28 January 1886, p6 c2</figcaption></figure>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #008000;">Hannah Rolle[t] and William Lamb were charged with a similar offence at house No.2, Court 3, Willow-row. -Detective Clay spoke to arresting the prisoners who denied keeping a brothel. -They had lived in the house about three or four months. On the 16th inst. four women and three men entered the house; on the 21st two men and two women went in the house; on the 23rd two women and nine men went into the house. The prisoners lived together as man and wife. The prisoners were about when this state of things was going on. -The man denied the charge, but the woman admitted the offence. -The prisoners had each been previously convicted, and they were now fined £5 and costs, or one month&#8217;s imprisonment with hard labour.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;">Nottingham Journal, 28 January 1886, p6 c2</span></p></blockquote>
<p>Interesting that in both cases, the men plead ignorance:</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #008000;">In defence the male prisoner [Edward Hemsley] said he did not know anything about the &#8220;affair,&#8221; as he was at work every day. -The female said it was all her fault. He did not want her to keep such a house, and she wished she never had. If the Bench sent them to gaol, her husband would get the &#8220;sack.&#8221; If they would let her off she would lead a better life.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;">Nottingham Journal, 28 January 1886, p6 c2</span></p></blockquote>
<figure id="attachment_1717" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1717" style="width: 395px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1717 size-full" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1886.4-Derbyshire-Advertiser-and-Journal-29-January-1886-p3-c5.png" alt="" width="395" height="565" /><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1717" class="wp-caption-text">Derbyshire Advertiser and Journal, 29 January 1886, p3 c5</figcaption></figure>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #008000;">&#8230;William Lamb and Hannah Rollett were charged on a warrant with keeping a disorderly house in Court 3, Willow-row between the 16th and 23rd Jan. -Detective Clay gave evidence of a similar nature to that in the previous case and said that he and police-sergeant Dexter apprehended the prisoners on the previous night, when they emphatically denied the charge.- The woman, who had been convicted six times before, pleaded guilty. The man had been in trouble on five previous occasions, and he now denied the charge.- They were fined £5 and costs each, with the alternative of a month&#8217;s imprisonment.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;">Derbyshire Advertiser and Journal, 29 January 1886, p3 c5</span></p></blockquote>
<p>The <em>Sheffield Indpendent </em>(28 January 1886) gave much the same information but mentions the &#8220;Prisoners&#8230; had lived together for two years&#8230;&#8221; even though we have evidence that they had been living together for around four.  [see <a href="https://geneageek.com/the-hannah-chronicles-enter-william/">previous post</a>]</p>
<figure id="attachment_1721" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1721" style="width: 567px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1886.3-Sheffield-Independent-28-January-1886-p2-c5.png"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1721 size-full" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1886.3-Sheffield-Independent-28-January-1886-p2-c5.png" alt="" width="567" height="502" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1721" class="wp-caption-text">Sheffield Independent, 28 January 1886, p2 c5</figcaption></figure>
<p>It&#8217;s unclear whether Hannah or William opted to pay the fine or take the imprisonment. I should note at this point that despite all these convictions against Hannah over the years and reports of serving time, I&#8217;ve not yet been able to find any jail record under any of her names.</p>
<p>Despite her claim that she would &#8220;lead a better life&#8221;, newspapers show that Patience Helmsley was charged with the same offence a few years later in 1890 (with double the penalty):</p>
<figure id="attachment_1726" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1726" style="width: 519px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1890-Derby-Daily-Telegraph-25-March-1890-p3-c2.png"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1726 size-full" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1890-Derby-Daily-Telegraph-25-March-1890-p3-c2.png" alt="" width="519" height="294" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1726" class="wp-caption-text">Derby Daily Telegraph, 25 March 1890, p3 c2</figcaption></figure>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>It wasn&#8217;t too long after the &#8216;shocking immorality&#8216; of 1881 that Hannah Bates/Rollett established a relationship with the significantly younger, William Henry Lamb. William&#8217;s family had lived in the West&#8230; </p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It wasn&#8217;t too long after the &#8216;<a href="https://geneageek.com/the-hannah-chronicles-shocking-immorality/">shocking immorality</a>&#8216; of 1881 that Hannah Bates/Rollett established a relationship with the significantly younger, William Henry Lamb.</p>
<p>William&#8217;s family had lived in the West End area of Derby for generations and he and Hannah soon set up home in one of the court houses in Willow Row. His parents lived in neighbouring Goodwin Street (where William himself was born at number 29), and like his father, William worked as a bricklayer and chimney sweep.</p>
<p>By 1882, Hannah was already referring to William as her husband, and using his surname when she was charged with drunkenness in Willow Row. (William was only 17 years old at this point and Hannah was 25.)</p>
<figure id="attachment_1701" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1701" style="width: 472px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1701 size-full" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1882.1-Derby-Daily-Telegraph-08-May-1882-p4c3.png" alt="" width="472" height="171" /><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1701" class="wp-caption-text">Derby Daily Telegraph, 08 May 1882, p4 c3</figcaption></figure>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #008000;">&#8211;Hannah Lamb was charged with drunkenness in Willow-row.-Prisoner said she was suffering more from passion than drink. Her husband had turned her out of the house.-She was fined 5s. and costs, or seven days&#8217; imprisonment with hard labour. </span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;">Derby Daily Telegraph, 08 May 1882, p4c3</span></p></blockquote>
<p>From this we can assume they had been living together as &#8216;man and wife&#8217; despite not being married and that the relationship was quite tumultuous even in their early days together.</p>
<p>The next year, it was William&#8217;s turn to be fined for drunkenness:</p>
<figure id="attachment_1702" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1702" style="width: 371px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1883-Derby-Daily-Telegraph-03-November-1883-p3-c4.png"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1702 size-full" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1883-Derby-Daily-Telegraph-03-November-1883-p3-c4.png" alt="" width="371" height="152" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1702" class="wp-caption-text">Derby Daily Telegraph, 03 November 1883, p3 c4</figcaption></figure>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #008000;">DRUNKENNESS.-William Lamb was fined 10s. and costs for being drunk and disorderly in Willow-row, on Thursday afternoon.&#8211;Police-constable Levers proved the case.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;">Derby Daily Telegraph, 03 November 1883, p3 c4</span></p></blockquote>
<p>A few years later, Hannah was summoned for threatening Mary Toon after a quarrel &#8216;about a cat&#8217;:</p>
<figure id="attachment_1706" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1706" style="width: 488px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1885-Derby-Daily-Telegraph-07-May-1885-p3-c3-MaryToon.png"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1706 size-full" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1885-Derby-Daily-Telegraph-07-May-1885-p3-c3-MaryToon.png" alt="" width="488" height="162" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1706" class="wp-caption-text">Derby Daily Telegraph, 07 May 1885, p3 c3</figcaption></figure>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #008000;">USING THREATS. -Hannah Lamb, a married woman, was summoned for threatening Mary Toon, on the 2nd inst -The parties live in Willow-row, and quarrelled about a cat -The defendant was bound over to keep the peace for 3 months in the sum of £10.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;">Derby Daily Telegraph, 07 May 1885, p3 c3</span></p></blockquote>
<p>Interestingly, William&#8217;s mother was a Toon so this Mary could be one of his relatives.</p>
<p>It was only a few months later that both Hannah and William were involved in some kind of brawl with the neighbours:</p>
<figure id="attachment_1707" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1707" style="width: 318px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1885-Derby-Daily-Telegraph-25-August-1885-p3-c6.png"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1707 size-full" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1885-Derby-Daily-Telegraph-25-August-1885-p3-c6.png" alt="" width="318" height="534" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1707" class="wp-caption-text">Derby Daily Telegraph, 25 August 1885 p3 c6</figcaption></figure>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #008000;">THE VIOLENT ASSAULT IN WILLOW ROW. &#8211; Thomas Limbert, John Tearney, and Henry Hill were charged with violently assaulting William Lamb, in court 3, Willow-row, on the night of the 21st instant. -Mr. Briggs defended Tearney and Hill. -The prosecutor stated that he lived in Court 3, Willow row, and knew the prisoners, who live in the same court. On Friday night, about half-past eleven, he went to Limbert&#8217;s house. The door was locked, and he shouted &#8220;Is our Nan here?&#8221; meaning Hannah Rollet. Limbert replied that she was not. Witness then requested to be allowed to look, and Limbert unlocked the door and went outside, and, using some bad language, he asked what witness wanted there. Without getting an answer he struck witness a number of times, and knocked him down. The other prisoners then went up the yard, and said to Limbert, &#8220;Give it the &#8211;, Tommy.&#8221; They then started kicking him whilst he was on the ground. Witness was taken to the Infirmary where he remained until that morning. He had been on friendly terms with the prisoners. He did not kick at the door when he went to Limbert&#8217;s house. -Hannah Rollit gave similar evidence. -The defence was that Lamb and Limbert were fighting, when Lamb fetched a sweep&#8217;s scraper out, and would have killed Limbert with it had not Hill prevented him. Tearney, it was said, was never within ten yards of the place where the fight took place. -Mr. Briggs called several witnesses, who corroborated the latter statement. -The Bench, having a doubt as regards Tearney, discharged him, Limbert, who had been convicted 15 times before, was sent to gaol for a month, with hard labour, Hill who had 21 previous confictions against him, was sentenced to a similar term. </span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;">Derby Daily Telegraph, 25 August 1885 p3 c6</span></p></blockquote>
<p>The Derbyshire Advertiser and Journal gave a different account a few days later:</p>
<figure id="attachment_1708" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1708" style="width: 497px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1885-Derbyshire-Advertiser-and-Journal-28-August-1885-p3-c5.png"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1708 size-full" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1885-Derbyshire-Advertiser-and-Journal-28-August-1885-p3-c5.png" alt="" width="497" height="498" srcset="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1885-Derbyshire-Advertiser-and-Journal-28-August-1885-p3-c5.png 497w, https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1885-Derbyshire-Advertiser-and-Journal-28-August-1885-p3-c5-150x150.png 150w" sizes="auto, (min-width: 1280px) 840px, (min-width: 1024px) calc(100vw - 460px), (min-width: 652px) 800px, (min-width: 482px) calc(100vw - 80px), calc(100vw - 40px)" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1708" class="wp-caption-text">Derbyshire Advertiser and Journal, 28 August 1885, p3 c5</figcaption></figure>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #008000;">ALLEGED VIOLENT ASSAULT IN WILLOW-ROW. -Jas. Limbert, John Teeney, and Henry Hill were charged with violently assaulting William Lamb, in Court 3, Willow-row, on the previous day. -Police-constable Robinson said that on the previous night he was called to a house in Court 3, Willow-row, by a woman named Rollet. On arriving there he saw the prosecutor who was bleeding from the mouth, and he complained of having been assaulted by three men. Witness did not see any wounds or bruises on him, and consequently told him to summon the men, who had attacked him. The woman Rollet subsequently procured a cab, in which the prosecutor was taken to the Infirmary, and from what the doctor who there examined him stated, the prisoners were apprehended and charged with the offence. Limbert said that Lamb went to his door, and made several unpleasant remarks about his wife. The door was fast, and he commenced kicking it. He (Limbert) then opened the door, and Lamb struck at him, whereupon he retaliated and knocked him down in self-defence. Prosecutor regained his feet, and they then had a fair fight, during which the other men came up, and Lamb ran into his own house. He came out again with a sweep&#8217;s broom, with which he struck at them, but after a scuffle they took it from him. -Police-constable Shirley also gave evidence as to Lambert&#8217;s condition. -Prisoners were remanded until Monday.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;">Derbyshire Advertiser and Journal, 28 August 1885, p3 c5</span></p></blockquote>
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<p>To be continued&#8230;</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Before Rose Richards [nee LAMB] died, we were chatting about her family history via facebook messenger and she wrote: &#8220;… my Dad had a sister we called Sally. She married&#8230; </p>
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<p>Before Rose Richards [nee LAMB] died, we were chatting about her family history via facebook messenger and she wrote:</p>



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<p><span style="color: #008000;">&#8220;… my Dad had a sister we called Sally. She married a man named Woodward who left her and went to America. During the war an American soldier had a piece in the Derby Evening telegraph asking for her, But my Dad wouldn&#8217;t let us answer it.&#8221;</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;">Rose Richards [nee Lamb], 2 Aug 2016</span></p>
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<p>I dutifully added the name Sally Lamb to the family tree as a brother of Reuben Henry LAMB (son of Hannah BATES and William Henry LAMB) but was unable to find the newspaper piece Rose refers to.</p>



<p>At a later point, likely trawling the newspapers for Rolletts, I came across an article requesting William Woodward come forward, or else his now deceased legal wife&#8217;s estate would be given to her brother John William Rollett:</p>



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<p><span style="color: #008000;">&#8220;TO WILLIAM WOODWARD formerly of Derby&#8230; and Birmingham&#8230; but whose present whereabouts is unknown.</span><br /><span style="color: #008000;">TAKE NOTICE that a Citation has issued citing you to cause an appearance to be entered for you in the Principal Probate Registry&#8230; within one month after publication hereof and accept or refuse Letters of Administration of the estate of SARAH JANE WOODWARD, of 53, Gisborne-street, Derby, in the County of Derby, deceased, or shew cause why the same should not be granted JOHN WILLIAM ROLLETT as a lawful brother of the whole blood of the said deceased and one of the persons interested in her estate, with an intimation that in default of your appearance Letters of Administration will be granted to the said JOHN WILLIAM ROLLETT.&#8221;</span></p>
<span style="color: #008000;"><cite>Derby Daily Telegraph, 12 May 1947, p10</cite></span></blockquote>



<p>This showed that Sally, officially known as Sarah Jane was actually a child of Hannah BATES&#8217; first husband, Alexander ROLLETT. Until then, I had only known him to have two sons &#8211; John William and William Henry. But since John was referred to as &#8216;a lawful brother of the whole blood&#8217;, I adjusted the tree and changed her maiden name to Sarah Jane ROLLETT, daughter of Alexander.</p>



<p>Unfortunately, this still didn&#8217;t help me in my quest for information. The closest I got was Sarah&#8217;s likely appearance in the 1939 register, where she was recorded as a widow and retired &#8216;rag sorter&#8217;.</p>
<figure id="attachment_1606" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1606" style="width: 1417px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1606 size-full" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/8c0a59a15162dc5f042acc52629d3d3f.png" alt="" width="1417" height="92" /><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1606" class="wp-caption-text">Sarah Jane Woodward in the 1939 register</figcaption></figure>
<p>Today, however, I came across her long lost husband in an ancestry member tree. This tree gave her name as Sarah Jane BATES (her mother&#8217;s maiden name) and also shared a copy of the marriage certificate which shows the two had married in Birmingham in 1891.</p>
<figure id="attachment_1615" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1615" style="width: 1161px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1615 size-full" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/dadfe51a5ae0b89055bd197a6e27d407.png" alt="" width="1161" height="370" /><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1615" class="wp-caption-text">The 1891 marriage of Sarah Jane BATES to William WOODWARD</figcaption></figure>
<p>Interestingly, Sally does not give her father&#8217;s name so it is still uncertain whether Alexander truly is her biological father. It is unlikely that her birth record would have his name either, since she is registered under her mother&#8217;s maiden name but I&#8217;d still like to order it one day to check. The fact that Sarah Jane was never recorded with her family intrigues me &#8211; perhaps she wasn&#8217;t actually Rollett&#8217;s child either?</p>
<p>It turns out that William had actually formed a relationship with his barmaid, Alice Robinson around 1907 (William &amp; Sally ran a pub in Aston &#8211; noted on the 1901 census) and had a couple of kids with her before migrating to Canada around 1910, where they lived as a married couple and continued to grow their family.</p>
<p>As for the newspaper piece Rose mentioned, according to William&#8217;s family he returned to England for a few years at the beginning of the war so it&#8217;s possible William did try to reach out to his former wife at that time (for whatever reason).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s so amazing to actually find answers to these little mysteries and especially from another perspective. In addition, the search for Sally allowed me to unlock more doors into the intriguing life of Hannah Bates&#8230;</p>
<h3><span style="color: #008000;">Update:</span></h3>
<p><span style="color: #333333;">Due to the above article, I had assumed Sally died in 1947 but the only likely death record in the index was in 1941. I have now found the probate record that states she did die in 1941 but probate wasn&#8217;t granted until 1947. Presumably, time had to be given to locate her missing husband, William before it being passed on to her brother(?).</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;">Next Steps:</span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="color: #008000;">order Sarah Jane BATES&#8217; birth certificate</span></li>
<li><span style="color: #008000;">locate newspaper article mentioned by Rose</span></li>
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<p style="font-size: 0;">And that&#8217;s where things have stayed for a long while. I was unable even to find a likely marriage between the two. But today, all that changed when I came across an ancestry member tree, which finally blew the doors open on this couple. More importantly, the discovery has helped me unlock even more doors.</p>
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