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<figure style="width: 640px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;" href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/05f82-applegarth.jpg"><img fetchpriority="high" decoding="async" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/05f82-applegarth.jpg?w=300" alt="" width="640" height="480" border="0" /></a><figcaption class="wp-caption-text">Applegarth Church, Dumfriesshire, Scotland via <a href="http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/439623">geograph</a></figcaption></figure>
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<div>This is almost a continuation of my post about antenuptial fornication but I have decided to post separately as I am still not sure whether this is the same person.</div>
<p>In the Dumfries Kirk Sessions of 1822 (which are <a href="https://info.dumgal.gov.uk/HistoricalIndexes/Home/DisplayDetailedSearchResults_Dumfries_Kirk_Session">searchable online</a>), James BROWN was &#8220;<strong><span style="background-color: white; color: #38761d;">named as the father of Jean Smith&#8217;s child; [and] gave satisfaction for this in the parish of Applegarth</span></strong>&#8221; (Archive Ref: CH2/537/12).  I believe &#8216;gave satisfaction&#8217; (in this sense), meant that the father gave monetary compensation to the parish for their support of the child.</p>
<div>So was this James BROWN my ancestor, who appeared in the Dunscore parish records 6 years later for antenuptial fornication?  With such a common name I cannot be sure but I can assess the likelihood of it being the same man for future reference.</div>
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<div><strong>First</strong>, was he old enough to be involved in this?  Although I don&#8217;t have his birth record, the 1851 census suggests he was born in 1801, which means he would have been 21 at the time &#8211; a prime age for this kind of crime. <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f609.png" alt="😉" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></div>
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<figure style="width: 400px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;" href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/56d3d-brown1851.jpg"><img decoding="async" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/56d3d-brown1851.jpg?w=300" alt="" width="400" height="137" border="0" /></a><figcaption class="wp-caption-text">James Brown and family on the 1851 census</figcaption></figure>
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<div>(Interestingly, their neighbour, Andrew Lorimer (appearing at bottom of image above) was the certifying physician on James&#8217; death certificate.)</div>
<p><strong>Next</strong>, was he near enough to be involved?  Applegarth is roughly 20 miles from Dunscore and about 30 miles from my James&#8217; home, Glencairn.  Not a short walk, but not impossible distances.</p>
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<figure style="width: 400px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;" href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/ec388-applegarthmap.jpg"><img decoding="async" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/ec388-applegarthmap.jpg?w=300" alt="" width="400" height="120" border="0" /></a><figcaption class="wp-caption-text">Map showing locations of Applegarth, Dunscore and Glencairn (Moniaive) in relation to each other via <a href="http://www.multimap.com/maps/">multimap</a></figcaption></figure>
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<p>So I can&#8217;t rule out my James Brown as the father of Jean Smith&#8217;s illegitimate child and I have kept hold of this genealogical tidbit. To get any closer to proving this, I would need to check for further information in the Kirk Session records and the Applegarth parish records for any further information on Jean SMITH and her child.</p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;">Next Steps:</span></p>
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<li><span style="color: #008000;">Check for further information in the Kirk Session records</span></li>
<li><span style="text-decoration: line-through; color: #008000;">Check Applegarth parish records for the child&#8217;s birth</span></li>
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<p><span style="color: #008000;">Update: Checked Applegarth, Dunscore, Glencairn and Lochmaben parishes (via <a style="color: #008000;" href="http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/">ScotlandsPeople</a>) for any birth with Jean SMITH as parent (between 1800 &#8211; 1825) and any SMITH birth (between 1816 &#8211; 1825) &#8211; no likely entries found (all have listed fathers).</span></p>
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