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					<description><![CDATA[<p>I wrote in a previous post about pinpointing Thomas PALMER&#8217;s premises using a newspaper report of his being robbed.  Living by a police station didn&#8217;t seem to give the security&#8230; </p>
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<p>I wrote in a <a href="https://geneageek.com/book-em-again-danno/">previous post</a> about pinpointing Thomas PALMER&#8217;s premises using a newspaper report of his being robbed.  Living by a police station didn&#8217;t seem to give the security you&#8217;d think it would, as Palmer was robbed again in 1869:</p>
<figure id="attachment_955" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-955" style="width: 527px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/Portsmouth-Times-and-Naval-Gazette-27-November-1869-p5-c5.png"><img decoding="async" class="wp-image-955 size-full" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/Portsmouth-Times-and-Naval-Gazette-27-November-1869-p5-c5.png" alt="" width="527" height="460" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-955" class="wp-caption-text">Portsmouth Times and Naval Gazette 27 November 1869, p5 c5</figcaption></figure>
<p>A certain Henry Baker stole two books from him at the value of 4 shillings, as well as a pot of cold cream from a nearby chemist, Charles Mumby.  Funnily enough a little research shows this chemist was actually the founder of <em>Mumby&#8217;s Mineral Waters</em>. (Read a little more about him <a href="http://www.rupertwilloughby.co.uk/gleanings/charles-mumby-co-gosport-and-portsmouth-memories-evoked-by-the-isle-of-wight-steam-railway/">here</a>.)  He also stole a letter stamp from a Mr Loveder but for some reason this wasn&#8217;t investigated.</p>
<figure id="attachment_956" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-956" style="width: 484px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/Portsmouth-Times-and-Naval-Gazette-11-December-1869-p3-c3.png"><img decoding="async" class="wp-image-956 size-full" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/Portsmouth-Times-and-Naval-Gazette-11-December-1869-p3-c3.png" alt="" width="484" height="360" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-956" class="wp-caption-text">Portsmouth Times and Naval Gazette 11 December 1869, p3 c3</figcaption></figure>
<p>As the &#8216;<em>well-known character</em>&#8216; had been convicted of a felony twice before this incident, Henry Baker was sentenced to twelve months hard labour.  Out of curiosity, I found his record of conviction for his crime against Thomas Palmer in the Southampton Assizes records.</p>
<figure id="attachment_1024" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1024" style="width: 1204px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/henrybaker.png"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1024 size-full" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/henrybaker.png" alt="" width="1204" height="130" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1024" class="wp-caption-text">Henry Baker&#8217;s conviction at the Southampton Assizes 1869</figcaption></figure>
<p>I&#8217;m curious as to what Thomas&#8217; &#8216;private mark&#8217; looked like.  Was his private mark different to his store mark? Did it look anything like this&#8230;?</p>
<p><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/book-label.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-2558 size-full" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/book-label.jpg" alt="" width="600" height="418" /></a></p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2017 14:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>In my last post, I was trying to find a more exact address for Thomas Palmer, bookseller of Gosport.  I had narrowed him down to &#8216;Upper South Street&#8217; but not&#8230; </p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In <a href="https://geneageek.com/book-em-danno/">my last post</a>, I was trying to find a more exact address for Thomas Palmer, bookseller of Gosport.  I had narrowed him down to &#8216;Upper South Street&#8217; but not being a local, still had no idea where exactly upon the street he lived.  The breakthrough came when I found a newspaper article reporting a robbery at his premises:</p>
<figure id="attachment_954" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-954" style="width: 379px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/Portsmouth-Times-and-Naval-Gazette-22-November-1862-p8-c3.png"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-954 size-full" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/Portsmouth-Times-and-Naval-Gazette-22-November-1862-p8-c3.png" width="379" height="300" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-954" class="wp-caption-text">Portsmouth Times and Naval Gazette 22 November 1862, p8 c3</figcaption></figure>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #009900;">John Daly, a Royal Artilleryman, was charged with attempting to break into the dwelling house of Thomas Palmer, almost opposite the Police Station, on the previous night. The prisoner was heard at the shutter by a policeman who was going to bed, and he gave information to a brother constable on duty, upon which he went outside the station gate and there saw the prisoner, without a jacket, standing by the window of the house, the shutters being open and partially broken. On seeing the policeman he ran away and was afterwards taken by P.C. Gibbs in a passage in North-street. Mr. Palmer, the occupier of the house, proved fastening up the house about 9 o&#8217;clock the previous night. Prisoner was committed for trial.</span></p></blockquote>
<figure id="attachment_1016" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1016" style="width: 255px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="http://www.gosportheritage.co.uk/28-february/the-old-police-station-in-south-street-still-derelict-when-this-photo-was-taken-in-1949/"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1016 size-full" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/The-old-police-station-in-South-Street-still-derelict-when-this-photo-was-taken-in-1949.-255x300.jpg" alt="" width="255" height="300" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1016" class="wp-caption-text">The old police station in South Street, Gosport &#8211; 1949</figcaption></figure>
<p>So now I knew that he lived &#8220;&#8230;almost opposite the Police Station&#8230;&#8221;.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, the police station no longer exists on South Street after being <a href="http://www.mygosport.org/ser_police.htm">destroyed by enemy action in 1941</a>.  I found a photograph of the building in 1949 on the <a href="http://www.gosportheritage.co.uk/28-february/the-old-police-station-in-south-street-still-derelict-when-this-photo-was-taken-in-1949/">Gosport Heritage</a> site but it gave me no other details.  Luckily however I found a c.1896 map which marked the location of the police station which made the description, &#8216;almost opposite&#8217; make sense.</p>
<figure id="attachment_1018" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1018" style="width: 785px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/gosportsouthstreetmap.png"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1018 size-full" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/gosportsouthstreetmap.png" alt="" width="785" height="900" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1018" class="wp-caption-text">Location of Thomas Palmer&#8217;s book store in 1862 (map c. 1896)</figcaption></figure>
<p>Interestingly, there is also a photo on the Gosport Heritage site captioned; &#8216;Portland Place; south side of South Street, running north-south almost opposite to the OLD police station.&#8217;  I&#8217;m pretty sure Palmer&#8217;s old book shop is just out of shot on the far left of this image (behind the first building).</p>
<figure id="attachment_1020" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1020" style="width: 800px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="http://www.gosportheritage.co.uk/28-february/portland-place-south-side-of-south-street-running-north-south-almost-opposite-to-the-old-police-station/"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1020 size-full" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/Portland-Place-south-side-of-South-Street-running-north-south-almost-opposite-to-the-OLD-police-station..jpg" alt="" width="800" height="541" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1020" class="wp-caption-text">Portland Place, Gosport 1941 via <a href="http://www.gosportheritage.co.uk/28-february/portland-place-south-side-of-south-street-running-north-south-almost-opposite-to-the-old-police-station/">Gosport Heritage</a></figcaption></figure>
<p>That&#8217;s probably as close as I&#8217;m going to get but since the buildings on that block are long gone now, I still feel strangely accomplished.</p>
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