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					<description><![CDATA[<p>I just LOVE finding connections within families. In part 4 of &#8216;The Hannah Chronicles&#8217;, Hannah was involved an incident with a man named Samuel Steele. One of the newspapers reporting&#8230; </p>
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<p>In <a href="https://geneageek.com/podcast/#ep13">part 4 of &#8216;The Hannah Chronicles&#8217;</a>, Hannah was involved an incident with a man named Samuel Steele. One of the newspapers reporting the incident, mentioned that William Lamb was a cousin of Steele&#8217;s wife.</p>
<figure id="attachment_3664" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-3664" style="width: 800px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/Samuel-Steele-connection.png"><img fetchpriority="high" decoding="async" class="wp-image-3664" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/Samuel-Steele-connection.png" alt="Tree diagram showing the relationship between William Lamb and Samuel Steele" width="800" height="608" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-3664" class="wp-caption-text">Samuel Steele was the husband of William Lamb&#8217;s cousin</figcaption></figure>
<p>I have since found out that there is <em>another</em> family connection.</p>
<p>Three years after William Lamb&#8217;s grandfather Daniel Toon died, his grandmother Mary Kennah, married a man named Robert Fellows. <span style="font-size: 12pt;">(Note: Since Daniel died before William was born, he may have even looked upon Robert as his grandfather.)</span></p>
<p>When expanding William Hirst&#8217;s tree, I found that his mother&#8217;s maiden name was also &#8216;Fellows&#8217;. Coincidences like this <em>need</em> to be explored, and in this case, it turned out that William Hirst&#8217;s mother, Ann Fellows, was the sister of Robert Fellows.</p>
<figure id="attachment_3669" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-3669" style="width: 800px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/Fellows-Hirst-Toon-connection-01.png"><img decoding="async" class="wp-image-3669" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/Fellows-Hirst-Toon-connection-01.png" alt="" width="800" height="353" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-3669" class="wp-caption-text">William Hirst&#8217;s mother was the sister of Robert Fellows</figcaption></figure>
<p>William Hirst&#8217;s parents even appear to be witnesses at Mary&#8217;s marriage to Robert.</p>
<figure id="attachment_3671" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-3671" style="width: 800px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/Fellows-Toon-marriage.png"><img decoding="async" class="wp-image-3671" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/Fellows-Toon-marriage.png" alt="" width="800" height="233" srcset="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/Fellows-Toon-marriage.png 1565w, https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/Fellows-Toon-marriage-1536x447.png 1536w" sizes="(min-width: 1280px) 840px, (min-width: 1024px) calc(100vw - 460px), (min-width: 652px) 800px, (min-width: 482px) calc(100vw - 80px), calc(100vw - 40px)" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-3671" class="wp-caption-text">Marriage record showing Thomas and Ann Hirst as witnesses at the marriage of Mary Toon (nee Kennah) to Robert Fellows</figcaption></figure>
<p>When Mary Kennah married Robert Fellows in 1849, her eldest daughter Sarah Toon was about 15 years old. Seven years later, in 1856, Sarah married William Hirst, the son of Robert&#8217;s sister.</p>
<p>So, Sarah Toon&#8217;s husband was her stepfather&#8217;s nephew.</p>
<p>This also means that when Hannah Bates was fighting with &#8216;William&#8217;s cousin&#8217;s husband&#8217;, she was also fighting with his step-grandfather&#8217;s nephew!</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>In a previous post, I included a message from Rose Richards which ended casually with: Cathy had a sister – Nellie Cash. She had a baby and hid it in&#8230; </p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a <a href="https://geneageek.com/bigamy-blues-part-3/">previous post</a>, I included a message from Rose Richards which ended casually with:</p>
<blockquote><p>Cathy had a sister – Nellie Cash. She had a baby and hid it in the chimney. It was found by firemen I think. I don’t know what happened to her. How’s that for a tale?</p></blockquote>
<p>Of course, I needed to find out more&#8230; and it is quite a tale indeed.</p>
<h3>The Mental Defective</h3>
<p>Nellie Cash was born on the 3rd of January 1915 and<span style="background-color: var(--global--color-background); color: var(--global--color-primary); font-family: var(--global--font-secondary); font-size: var(--global--font-size-base);"> her father, sadly, died around the same time. A few years later, in 1918, her mother married Arthur G Morgan and soon after had Nellie&#8217;s half sister, Kathleen (the Cathy mentioned by Rose above). The girls&#8217; mother seems to have died around 1930 and both girls remained with Arthur. </span><span style="background-color: var(--global--color-background); color: var(--global--color-primary); font-family: var(--global--font-secondary); font-size: var(--global--font-size-base);">Nellie, who was said to be a &#8216;mental defective&#8217;,</span><span style="background-color: var(--global--color-background); color: var(--global--color-primary); font-family: var(--global--font-secondary); font-size: var(--global--font-size-base);"> kept house for her stepfather and sister at 19 Sims Avenue, Derby. </span><span style="color: var(--global--color-primary); font-family: var(--global--font-secondary); font-size: var(--global--font-size-base); background-color: var(--global--color-background);">A doctor would later state that &#8220;</span><span style="color: var(--global--color-primary); font-family: var(--global--font-secondary); font-size: var(--global--font-size-base); background-color: var(--global--color-background);">In his opinion it must have been evident to anyone who saw her frequently that she was feeble-minded, unless the person concerned was feeble-minded too.&#8221;</span></p>
<h3>The Body</h3>
<p><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Body-in-Chimney-headlines.png"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-2749" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Body-in-Chimney-headlines.png" alt="newspaper headlines" width="246" height="181" /></a></p>
<p>On 26 February 1938, the body of an infant was recovered by police from the front bedroom of 19 Sims Avenue (reports do not mention who first brought it to their attention). <span style="background-color: var(--global--color-background); color: var(--global--color-primary); font-family: var(--global--font-secondary); font-size: var(--global--font-size-base);">The baby girl, which had been wrapped in a blue frock and placed in a mat bag, was first put into a cupboard and later placed in the bedroom chimney. </span><span style="background-color: var(--global--color-background); color: var(--global--color-primary); font-family: var(--global--font-secondary); font-size: var(--global--font-size-base);">A post mortem examination determined that the baby died due to inattention but had not taken a breath. </span><span style="background-color: var(--global--color-background); color: var(--global--color-primary); font-family: var(--global--font-secondary); font-size: var(--global--font-size-base);">Nellie admitted that she had recently given birth to a child and was taken to the police station to give her statement.</span></p>
<h3>The Affair</h3>
<p>Two years earlier, 21-year-old Nellie had become acquainted with 58-year-old David Dean. Dean, who lived at 36 Cobden Street and had been married for 30 years with three children, kept a tobacconist shop from which Nellie would fetch tobacco for her stepfather.</p>
<figure id="attachment_2747" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-2747" style="width: 320px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/tobacconist.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-2747 size-full" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/tobacconist.jpg" alt="building front of G. Wilcox Ltd " width="320" height="438" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-2747" class="wp-caption-text">A tobacco wholesaler on London Road, Derby (c1930) via <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20210322221133/https://www.theguardian.com/cities/gallery/2017/apr/14/forgotten-shops-derby-ww-winter-archive-photographs-in-pictures">The Guardian</a></figcaption></figure>
<p>At some point, they began some kind of &#8216;relationship&#8217; and Nellie was of the opinion that she was &#8216;going out with him&#8217;. Dean gave a rather dubious account that he had been &#8216;pestered&#8217; by Cash at a time when he had no work to do, and had &#8216;yielded&#8217; to her.</p>
<p>Nellie told the police she had previously given birth to another child of Dean&#8217;s in December 1936 and told him it was dead. She had put the baby in a bag and together they emptied the &#8216;contents&#8217; of the bag in the River Derwent. After Nellie gave birth for a second time on February 17, she told Dean it was dead and he said they would put it in the river.</p>
<figure id="attachment_2743" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-2743" style="width: 314px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Nottingham-Journal-22-June-1938-p1-c2.png"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-2743 size-full" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Nottingham-Journal-22-June-1938-p1-c2.png" alt="newspaper clipping" width="314" height="402" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-2743" class="wp-caption-text">Nottingham Journal, 22 June 1938, p1 c2</figcaption></figure>
<p>Dean was charged <span style="background-color: var(--global--color-background); color: var(--global--color-primary); font-family: var(--global--font-secondary); font-size: var(--global--font-size-base);">under the Mental Deficiency Act </span><span style="background-color: var(--global--color-background); color: var(--global--color-primary); font-family: var(--global--font-secondary); font-size: var(--global--font-size-base);">of &#8216;a serious offence against a woman who was a mental defective&#8217;. He was found guilty and sentenced to six months&#8217; imprisonment.</span></p>
<p>Bail for Nellie was allowed in the sum of £10, on the condition that she went to the Boundary House Institution (the former workhouse and later Manor Hospital). This condition seems to have been agreed to, as Nellie was recorded at the institution the following year on the 1939 register.</p>
<h3>The Aftermath</h3>
<p>In November 1938, Dean&#8217;s wife of 30 years was granted a decree nisi. She had moved to Birmingham, most likely to escape the scandal and gossip her husband&#8217;s actions had caused. Dean&#8217;s offence and imprisonment were given in evidence, and the court was told that he left her to go to the trial and had not been back since.</p>
<figure id="attachment_2744" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-2744" style="width: 472px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Nottingham-Journal-28-November-1938-p1-c4.png"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-2744 size-full" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Nottingham-Journal-28-November-1938-p1-c4.png" alt="newspaper clipping" width="472" height="338" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-2744" class="wp-caption-text">Nottingham Journal, 28 November 1938, p1 c4</figcaption></figure>
<p>Interestingly, 36 Cobden Street was advertised for sale in the Derby Daily Telegraph in August; and again in October at a reduced price. It is not surprising that his wife would want to cut ties and leave the area as soon as possible.</p>
<figure id="attachment_2774" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-2774" style="width: 608px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Derby-Daily-Telegraph-20-August-1938-p3-c3.png"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="size-full wp-image-2774" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Derby-Daily-Telegraph-20-August-1938-p3-c3.png" alt="newspaper clipping" width="608" height="160" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-2774" class="wp-caption-text">Derby Daily Telegraph, 20 August 1938, p3 c3</figcaption></figure>
<figure id="attachment_2773" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-2773" style="width: 607px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Derby-Daily-Telegraph-12-October-1938-p2-c6.png"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-2773 size-full" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Derby-Daily-Telegraph-12-October-1938-p2-c6.png" alt="newspaper clipping" width="607" height="125" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-2773" class="wp-caption-text">Derby Daily Telegraph, 12 October 1938, p2 c6</figcaption></figure>
<p>David Dean served his time and the next year was recorded in the 1939 register at the Church Army Hostel on 20 Bridge Street (albeit with 10 years shaved off his age). He died a few years later in 1942.</p>
<p>As for Nellie, it is unclear how long she stayed at Boundary House but in 1955 she married a man named John O&#8217;Sullivan. I like to think that she lived happily ever after.</p>
<p><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Derby-Daily-Telegraph-01-March-1938-p5-c2.png" alt="" width="250" height="577" /></p>
<blockquote><p>CHILD&#8217;S BODY IN CHIMNEY<br />
HINT OF OTHER PROCEEDINGS<br />
DERBY INQUEST<br />
After hearing a report of a post-mortem examination, a verdict in accordance with the medical evidence that death was due to inattention at birth was returned by the jury at the inquest at Derby, last night, on the child of Nellie Cash, 19, Sims-avenue, Derby.<br />
Detective D. Salter said that accompanied by Inspector Gray he visited Sims-avenue on Saturday and recovered the child&#8217;s body from a chimney in a bedroom.<br />
It was wrapped in a blue frock and had been placed in a mat bag. The body was taken to the mortuary. Detective Salter added that Cash made a statement regarding the child.<br />
DOCTOR&#8217;S EVIDENCE<br />
Dr. G. R. Osborn, who made a post-mortem examination, said there was no evidence to show that the child had a separate existence. Apparently, the baby had not breathed, and death was due to inattention at birth, he added.<br />
Addressing the jury, the Coroner (Mr. T. H. Bishop) said that the body had been found in circumstances which might lead to other proceedings.<br />
<span style="font-size: 16px; font-weight: 400;"><em>Derby Daily Telegraph, 01 March 1938, p5, c2</em></span></p></blockquote>
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<figure id="attachment_2761" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-2761" style="width: 284px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Derby-Daily-Telegraph-22-June-1938-p7.png"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="size-full wp-image-2761" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Derby-Daily-Telegraph-22-June-1938-p7.png" alt="newspaper clipping" width="284" height="774" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-2761" class="wp-caption-text">Derby Daily Telegraph, 22 June 1938, p7</figcaption></figure>
<blockquote><p>CHILD&#8217;S BODY IN CHIMNEY<br />
MENTAL CONDITION OF DERBY GIRL<br />
Mr. Justice Asquith, at Derbyshire Assizes yesterday, postponed judgment on Nellie Cash (23), a housekeeper, of Sims-avenue, Derby, with a view to her being sent to an institution.<br />
She pleaded guilty to having endeavoured to conceal the birth of a child, of which she had been delivered, by a secret disposition of the body.<br />
Describing Cash as a mental defective, Mr. T. N. Winning, prosecuting, stated that if she had been a person of normal intelligence the case would have been very serious. Before the present case Cash had had another child, and she had said that she put the body into a river.<br />
NEVER FOUND<br />
The body had never been found, said Mr. Winning.<br />
In the present case the baby was born when nobody was about, and the child had not had a separate existence.<br />
The body was first put into a cupboard and later was placed up a chimney.<br />
Dr. Ralph G. Cooke, Resident Medical Superintendent at the City Hospital, Derby, said that Cash was a feeble-minded person to such an extent as to bring her within the province of the Mental Deficiency Act.<br />
Cash, who pleaded guilty, was represented by Mr. A. J. Flint (instructed by Messrs. Flint, Marsden and Bishop).<br />
LEATHER-DRESSER SENTENCED<br />
David Dean (59), leather-dresser of Cobden-street, Derby, who admitted one of two counts alleging that he had committed serious offences against Cash &#8211; a mental defective &#8211; was sentenced to six months&#8217; imprisonment.<br />
<span style="font-size: 16px; font-weight: 400;"><em>Derby Daily Telegraph, 22 June 1938, p7</em></span></p></blockquote>
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<p>From the Derby Daily Telegraph, 21 April 1938, p10 c5:</p>
<blockquote><p>LEATHER DRESSER ACCUSED<br />
David Dean (60), a leather-dresser, of 36, Cobden-street, Derby, was accused of a serious offence against a woman who was a mental defective, between January 1 and February 17.<br />
Mr. E. H. Nichols, assistant solicitor to the Derby Corporation, prosecuting, said that the case was brought under the Mental Deficiency Act.<br />
Arthur George Morgan, a labourer, of 19, Sims-avenue, Derby, said that his step-daughter, Nellie Cash, was 23, and kept house for himself and his daughter.<br />
He knew of a tobacconist&#8217;s shop kept by Dean, and Nellie Cash used to go there for his tobacco.<br />
Nellie Cash, who was warned by the Clerk (Colonel W. R. H. Whiston) that she was not obliged answer any questions which might incriminate her, said that she had known Dean for about two years and had been going out with him.<br />
Mr. F. W. Barnett, who represented Dean, objected to further questions.<br />
Dr. Ralph G. Cooke, Resident Medical Superintendent of the City Hospital, Derby, said that Cash was admitted on February 26 last in a debilitated condition.<br />
Her history was that she had given birth to a child on February 17 and her condition was consistent with that.<br />
UNDER OBSERVATION<br />
He had had her under observation, and in his opinion she was a feeble-minded person to a sufficient degree to  bring her within the province of the Mental Deficiency Act.<br />
In his opinion it must have been evident to anyone who saw her frequently that she was feeble-minded, unless the person concerned was feeble-minded too.<br />
Mr. Barnett submitted that the prosecution had failed to make out a case under any criminal charge.<br />
The magistrates decided that there was a prima facie case against Dean, and he was committed for trial at the next Derbyshire Assizes, bail being allowed in the sum of £10.<br />
Dean said that he did not wish to give evidence or to call witnesses.<br />
BODY IN CHIMNEY<br />
Evidence of a child&#8217;s body being recovered from a chimney was given when Cash, who was described as a housekeeper of 19, Sims-avenue, Derby, was accused of endeavouring to conceal the birth on February 17 of a female child, of which she had been delivered, by the secret disposition of its body. Detective-constable D. Salter said that he saw Cash at her home on February 26, and after being cautioned she admitted that she had recently given birth to a child. He took her to the police station, where she made a statement.<br />
The officer read this statement, in which Cash was alleged to have stated that she gave birth to a child in December, 1936, and she told Dean it was dead.<br />
She had put the baby in a bag, the statement added, had gone out with Dean, and he had emptied the contents of the bag in the River Derwent.<br />
The statement added that she gave birth to another baby on February 17 this year, and when she told Dean it was dead he said they would put it in the river.<br />
In the statement Cash alleged that Dean was the father of both the children born to her.<br />
WRAPPED IN FROCK<br />
Detective Salter added that Cash took him to the front bedroom of her home, and he recovered from the chimney the body of a female child which was wrapped in an old blue frock and in a bag.<br />
Dr. G. R. Osborne, pathologist at Derbyshire Royal Infirmary, said that a post mortem examination disclosed that the baby born in February had not had a separate existence, and death was due to inattention at birth.<br />
Cash was committed for trial at Derbyshire Assizes, Mr. F. W. Barnett, who appeared on her behalf, offering no objection.<br />
Bail was allowed in the sum of £10, on condition that she went to Boundary House.<br />
<span style="font-size: 16px; font-weight: 400;"><em>Derby Daily Telegraph, 21 April 1938, p10 c5</em></span></p>
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<p>From the Nottingham Journal, 22 June 1938, p1, c2:</p>
<blockquote><p>DEAD BABY CHARGE<br />
Sentence on Woman Postponed<br />
-Prison for Derby Man<br />
Nellie Cash (23), housekeeper, a Derby woman, was at Derby Assizes yesterday accused of secretly disposing of the dead body of a child in an endeavour to conceal the birth, and was stated to be a mental defective. Sentence was postponed by Mr. Justice Asquith with a view to her being sent to a mental institution.<br />
David Dean (59), an unemployed Derby man, was accused of an offence against the woman, knowing her to be mentally defective.<br />
On Dean&#8217;s behalf, Mr. A. R. Flint pointed out that he had been &#8220;pestered&#8221; by Cash at a time when he had no work to do, and he had yielded to her.<br />
Dean was sentenced to six months&#8217; imprisonment.<br />
<span style="font-size: 16px; font-weight: 400;"><em>Nottingham Journal, 22 June 1938, p1, c2</em></span></p>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Featured Image: Long Bridge over the River Derwent in the 1930s via Derbyshire Live (Continued from previous posts Bigamy Blues and Bigamy Blues Part 2) Records show that Reuben and&#8230; </p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Featured Image: Long Bridge over the River Derwent in the 1930s via <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20201027043132if_/https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/news/nostalgia/stunning-1930s-photo-features-derbys-2739546">Derbyshire Live</a></span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">(Continued from previous posts <a style="color: #008000;" href="https://geneageek.com/bigamy-blues/">Bigamy Blues</a> and <a style="color: #008000;" href="https://geneageek.com/bigamy-blues-part-2/">Bigamy Blues Part 2</a>)</span></p>
<p>Records show that Reuben and Mary eventually remarried in 1963 &#8211; 25 years after the bigamy trial. I wondered how that came about. Had they met up again years later and rekindled the romance? Had Mary stuck by Reuben despite the dishonesty? It seemed unlikely I would ever find out.</p>
<h4><span style="color: #008000;">A Brave Act</span></h4>
<p>Back in 1937, Reuben was reported in the newspapers as having rescued a child that had fallen in the River Derwent. For his efforts, the 16-year-old Reuben received a Royal Humane Society Certificate while a patient at the Royal Infirmary.</p>
<figure id="attachment_2261" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-2261" style="width: 293px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1937-rescue-of-a-boy-Derby-Daily-Telegraph-17-December-1937-p1-col3.png"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-2261 size-full" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1937-rescue-of-a-boy-Derby-Daily-Telegraph-17-December-1937-p1-col3.png" alt="" width="293" height="527" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-2261" class="wp-caption-text">Derby Daily Telegraph, 17 December 1937, p1, c3</figcaption></figure>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #008000;">DERBY RIVER RESCUES</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">HONOURS FOR MAN AND YOUTHS</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">The Royal Humane Society has awarded testimonials on parchment to two Derby youths and a Derby man in recognition of the parts they played in drowning rescues&#8230;<br />
</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">George William Gamble (23), of 4, Back Colyear-street, Derby, who rescued Geraldine James (9), of 175, Osmaston-road, Derby from the Derwent, was assisted by Reuben Alfred Lamb (16), also of 175, Osmaston-road.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">The child fell into the river while attempting to recover a ball.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;">(Derby Daily Telegraph, 17 December 1937, p1, c3)</span></p></blockquote>
<figure id="attachment_2264" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-2264" style="width: 311px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1938-reward-Nottingham-Journal-21-February-1938.png"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-2264 size-full" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1938-reward-Nottingham-Journal-21-February-1938.png" alt="" width="311" height="427" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-2264" class="wp-caption-text">Nottingham Journal, 21 February 1938, p3, c2</figcaption></figure>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #008000;">RESCUE RECALLED</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Presentation to Patient in Derby Infirmary</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">The Mayor of Derby (Ald. E. E. Paulson) on Saturday made presentations of three Royal Humane Society Certificates, two at the police court and the other at the Royal Infirmary.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">In the latter case the recipient was Reuben Alfred Lamb (16), of 175, Osmaston-road who is a patient in the institution. He had been instrumental, in conjunction with George W. Gamble (24), of 4, Colyear-street, to whom the award had also been made, in saving the life of a girl who, while playing on the river bank near Siddals-road, over-balanced and fell into the water&#8230;</span></p>
<p><span id="NewspaperTitle" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: var(--global--spacing-unit); font-family: var(--global--font-secondary); font-size: var(--global--font-size-base);">(Nottingham Journal,</span><span style="margin-top: var(--global--spacing-unit); margin-bottom: var(--global--spacing-unit); font-family: var(--global--font-secondary); font-size: var(--global--font-size-base); background-color: var(--global--color-background);"> </span><em id="NewspaperDate" style="margin-top: var(--global--spacing-unit); margin-bottom: 0px; font-family: var(--global--font-secondary); font-size: var(--global--font-size-base);">21 February 1938, p3, c2)</em></p></blockquote>
<p><span id="NewspaperTitle">The article annoyingly failed to mention <em>why</em> Reuben was in the infirmary. </span></p>
<p><span id="NewspaperTitle">I had resigned myself to probably never knowing the answers to any of my questions, when I remembered asking Rose (Reuben&#8217;s sister) about this incident before she died. Luckily I found the conversation&#8230;</span></p>
<p><em><span style="color: #008000;">[after being asked about her brother&#8217;s bigamy]</span></em></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #008000;">I had forgotten about that. She said she was pregnant, he believed her and said he&#8217;d marry </span><span style="color: #008000;">her. Then he and his friend Bill Gamble saw a child in the river Derwent and Alfie jumped in and saved it. He got a certificate from the Humane Society for bravery, but got an infection and was seriously ill and likely to die so Dad, who had refused to let him marry, relented. The pregnancy lasted two years!!!! He was called up for the army, the yanks came to Derby and Cathy was in heaven, but Alfie left her and later married Mary. They had four or five children and were very happy. Cathy (Morgan) had a sister &#8211; Nellie Cash. She had a baby and hid it in the chimney. It was found by firemen I think. I don&#8217;t know what happened to her. How&#8217;s that for a tale?</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000; background-color: var(--global--color-background); font-family: var(--global--font-secondary); font-size: var(--global--font-size-base); font-weight: normal;">(Rose Richards, 6 August 2016, punctuation edited for clarity)</span></p></blockquote>
<p>It was such a joy (and a relief!) to reread this message. Of course Rose may have been biased, but although Cathy&#8217; isn&#8217;t painted in a very positive light, this family version of events really helps to clear things up. It even alludes to the &#8216;associating with other men&#8217; mentioned in the trials. I had previously seen articles about &#8216;the rescue&#8217;, so it was interesting that a seemingly unrelated incident had also played a part in this story.</p>
<p><span style="background-color: var(--global--color-background); color: var(--global--color-primary); font-family: var(--global--font-secondary); font-size: var(--global--font-size-base);">And so, a rough timeline appears as follows:</span></p>
<p style="line-height: var(--wp--typography--line-height, --global--line-height-body);"><span style="color: #008000;">1937 &#8211;</span> Reuben (16) and Kathleen (18) discuss getting married; his father refuses<br />
<span style="color: #008000;">1937 &#8211; December</span> &#8211; Reuben rescues child from river and comes close to death</p>
<p style="line-height: var(--wp--typography--line-height, --global--line-height-body);"><span style="color: #008000;">1938 &#8211; February</span> &#8211; Reuben receives award in hospital; his father consents to the marriage<br />
<span style="color: #008000;">1938 &#8211; abt June</span> &#8211; Reuben marries Kathleen Morgan</p>
<p style="line-height: var(--wp--typography--line-height, --global--line-height-body);"><span style="color: #008000;">1939 &#8211;</span> Reuben is living with wife Kathleen and her father in Derby (30 Bradshaw Street)</p>
<p style="line-height: var(--wp--typography--line-height, --global--line-height-body);"><span style="color: #008000;">1945</span> &#8211; Reuben separates from Kathleen (unclear whether this was before or after meeting Mary)<br />
<span style="color: #008000;">1945 &#8211; April</span> &#8211; Reuben meets widow Mary Evans Mitchell at Nottingham Castle NAAFI canteen</p>
<p style="line-height: var(--wp--typography--line-height, --global--line-height-body);"><span style="color: #008000;">1946 &#8211; Feb 2nd</span> &#8211; Reuben marries Mary<br />
<span style="color: #008000;">1946/7</span> &#8211; Reuben visits Kathleen in Derby (in response to a telegram)</p>
<p style="line-height: var(--wp--typography--line-height, --global--line-height-body);"><span style="color: #008000;">1947 &#8211; Jan 21st</span> &#8211; Kathleen visits in Mansfield and reveals all<br />
<span style="color: #008000;">1947 &#8211; Jan 29th</span> &#8211; Reuben is charged with bigamy<br />
<span style="color: #008000;">1947 &#8211; Feb 18th</span> &#8211; Reuben is sentenced to 3 months prison for bigamy</p>
<p style="line-height: var(--wp--typography--line-height, --global--line-height-body);"><span style="color: #008000;">1962</span> &#8211; Kathleen dies</p>
<p style="line-height: var(--wp--typography--line-height, --global--line-height-body);"><span style="color: #008000;">1963</span> &#8211; Reuben and Mary marry</p>
<h4><span style="color: #008000;">All&#8217;s Well That Ends Well</span></h4>
<p>Reuben and Mary&#8217;s marriage in early 1963 appears to coincide with Kathleen&#8217;s death the previous year (no evidence of divorce has been found and Kathleen&#8217;s death was registered under the surname Lamb).</p>
<p><span style="background-color: var(--global--color-background); color: var(--global--color-primary); font-family: var(--global--font-secondary); font-size: var(--global--font-size-base);">So there was a happy ending after all. </span><span style="background-color: var(--global--color-background); color: var(--global--color-primary); font-family: var(--global--font-secondary); font-size: var(--global--font-size-base);">Despite not being</span><span style="background-color: var(--global--color-background); color: var(--global--color-primary); font-family: var(--global--font-secondary); font-size: var(--global--font-size-base);"> </span><em style="color: var(--global--color-primary); font-family: var(--global--font-secondary); font-size: var(--global--font-size-base);">legally</em><span style="background-color: var(--global--color-background); color: var(--global--color-primary); font-family: var(--global--font-secondary); font-size: var(--global--font-size-base);"> </span><span style="background-color: var(--global--color-background); color: var(--global--color-primary); font-family: var(--global--font-secondary); font-size: var(--global--font-size-base);">wed, </span><span style="background-color: var(--global--color-background); color: var(--global--color-primary); font-family: var(--global--font-secondary); font-size: var(--global--font-size-base);">Reuben and Mary remained a couple and built a family together before they were able to</span><span style="background-color: var(--global--color-background); color: var(--global--color-primary); font-family: var(--global--font-secondary); font-size: var(--global--font-size-base);"> &#8216;make it official&#8217; in 1963.</span></p>
<p><span style="background-color: var(--global--color-background); color: var(--global--color-primary); font-family: var(--global--font-secondary); font-size: var(--global--font-size-base);">As for the baby in the chimney..? Now, <em>that</em>&#8216;s another story altogether&#8230;</span></p>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>A while ago, while researching the Lamb family, I stumbled across a few newspaper articles regarding the trial and conviction of a family member for bigamy in 1947. Obviously I&#8230; </p>
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<p>A while ago, while researching the Lamb family, I stumbled across a few newspaper articles regarding the trial and conviction of a family member for bigamy in 1947. Obviously I needed to know more&#8230;</p>
<p>Reuben Lamb and Kathleen Morgan had married at a young age &#8211; Reuben was just 17, Kathleen 19. After about a year of marriage, they were recorded living with Kathleen&#8217;s father at 30 Bradshaw Street, Derby in the 1939 register. <span style="color: #008000;">(Note: For some reason, Kathleen was crossed out but added to a later page with the same information.)</span></p>
<figure id="attachment_2104" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-2104" style="width: 863px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/reuben-1939.png"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-2104 size-full" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/reuben-1939.png" alt="" width="863" height="141" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-2104" class="wp-caption-text">The young couple on the 1939 register</figcaption></figure>
<p>The reports are a little unclear, but at some point Reuben joined the army and eventually found himself in Nottingham. It was here, in 1945, that Reuben met canteen worker, Mary Evans Mitchell who worked at a Navy, Army and Airforce Institute canteen located near Nottingham Castle. The NAAFI was established in 1920 to &#8216;run the recreational establishments needed by the Armed Forces, and to sell goods to servicemen and their families (source: <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20201205054311/http://www.naafi.co.uk/">NAAFI.co.uk</a>). Reuben told Mary that his first wife <span style="color: #000000;">&#8220;had been killed in an air raid, and that his marriage had in any case been a great mistake.&#8221; (Nottingham Journal, 19 February 1947, p3, c3). </span>Reuben and Mary grew &#8216;fond&#8217; of each other &#8211; so much so that Reuben moved in with Mary at her sister&#8217;s home and they married in February the next year (1946).</p>
<h3 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">&#8220;She was everything that the other one wasn&#8217;t&#8230;&#8221;</span></h3>
<p>Less than a year later, the new life Reuben had built for himself came crashing down. Reuben went to Derby to see Kathleen &#8216;in response to a telegram&#8217;. While there, he may have let something slip, which led to the first wife arriving in Mansfield on the 21st of January to reveal the truth to poor Mary.</p>
<p>Reuben told the Nottingham Assizes:  &#8220;after he had deceived her [Mary] for so long, he simply had not the courage to tell her the truth when it actually came to the point of marrying her&#8221;. Kathleen claimed Reuben &#8216;thrashed&#8217; her; Reuben denied this and claimed Kathleen had been &#8216;associating&#8217; with other men. Regardless, the judge found that Reuben&#8217;s actions had been quite deliberate and sentenced him to three months in prison.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s impossible not to feel for Mary who, I was to find, was already no stranger to heartbreak&#8230;</p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;">(Story to be continued in <a style="color: #008000;" href="https://geneageek.com/bigamy-blues-part-2/">Part Two</a>)</span></p>
<figure id="attachment_2094" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-2094" style="width: 200px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/Nottingham-Journal-30-January-1947-p4-c7.png"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-2094 size-full" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/Nottingham-Journal-30-January-1947-p4-c7.png" alt="" width="200" height="531" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-2094" class="wp-caption-text"><span style="font-size: 16px; font-style: normal;">Nottingham Journal, 30 January 1947, p4, c7</span></figcaption></figure>
<blockquote><strong><span style="color: #008000;">Mansfield Man For Trial on Bigamy Charge</span></strong><br /><br /><span style="color: #008000;">A meeting in a N.A.A.F.I. canteen near Nottingham Castle in April, 1945, between a soldier and a canteen worker, which led to an alleged bigamous marriage at St. John&#8217;s Church, Mansfield, on 9 February last, was referred to at Mansfield yesterday.</span><br /><span style="color: #008000;">Reuben Alfred Lamb, of 40, Titchfield-street, Mansfield, was charged with bigamously marrying Mary Evans Mitchell, a widow, of the same address, during the lifetime of his wife, Kathleen Lamb (27), of 30, Bradshaw-street, Derby. He pleaded &#8220;Guilty&#8221; and was committed for trial at the Notts. Assizes, bail being renewed.</span><br /><span style="color: #008000;">Mr. E. B. Hibbert, prosecuting, said accused was legally married at the Derby Register Office in June, 1938, but he and his wife separated in 1945. At the second &#8220;ceremony&#8221; he described himself as a widower, stating his wife was killed in an air raid at Derby.</span><br /><span style="color: #008000;">Mrs. Mitchell said, after demobilisation, Lamb lodged with her at her sister&#8217;s home. After Mrs. Lamb called he revealed the whole truth.</span><br /><span style="color: #008000;">Lamb said that after meeting Mrs. Mitchell they became fond of each other. &#8220;She was everything that the other one wasn&#8217;t,&#8221; he said.</span><br /><span style="font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; color: #008000;">(Nottingham Journal, 30 January 1947, p4, c7)</span></blockquote>
<figure id="attachment_2097" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-2097" style="width: 299px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/Nottingham-Evening-Post-18-February-1947-p4-c1-1.png"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-2097 size-full" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/Nottingham-Evening-Post-18-February-1947-p4-c1-1.png" alt="" width="299" height="540" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-2097" class="wp-caption-text"><span style="font-size: 16px; font-style: normal;">Nottingham Evening Post, 18 February 1947, p4, c1</span></figcaption></figure>
<blockquote><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>THREE MONTHS FOR BIGAMY</strong><br /><br /></span><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>Sequel To Unhappy Marriage</strong><br /><br /></span><span style="color: #008000;">Sentence of three months&#8217; imprisonment was passed at the Notts. Assizes, to-day, on Reuben Alfred Lamb, 25, a grinder, who was committed from Mansfield on a charge of bigamy at Mansfield on February 9th, 1946.</span><br /><span style="color: #008000;">&#8220;There is no doubt that what you did you did quite deliberately,&#8221; said Mr. Justice Morris in passing sentence.</span><br /><span style="color: #008000;">Mr. Nigel Robinson, prosecuting, said the legal marriage was in 1938 at Derby, accused being 17 and his wife 19. He served in the army and on his discharge had a quarrel with his wife and left to lodge with a widow, Mrs. Mitchell, a N.A.A.F.I. worker whom he illegally married.</span><br /><span style="color: #008000;">Lamb later went to see his wife in response to a telegram, and subsequently was alleged to have thrashed her.</span><br /><span style="color: #008000;">Mr. W. A. Simes, defending, explained, in interrogation, that accused&#8217;s legal wife had been associating with other men. It had been an unhappy marriage. Lamb denied thrashing his wife. <br /></span><span style="font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; color: #008000;">(Nottingham Evening Post, 18 February 1947, p4, c1)</span></blockquote>
<figure id="attachment_2098" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-2098" style="width: 164px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/Nottingham-Journal-19-February-1947-p3-c3.png"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-2098 size-full" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/Nottingham-Journal-19-February-1947-p3-c3.png" alt="" width="164" height="575" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-2098" class="wp-caption-text"><span style="font-size: 16px; font-style: normal;">Nottingham Journal, 19 February 1947, p3, c3</span></figcaption></figure>
<blockquote><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>Said Wife Was Killed in Raid</strong><br /><br /></span><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>Bigamy Sentence at Notts. Assizes</strong><br /><br /></span><span style="color: #008000;">SEVERAL cases of alleged bigamy were dealt with by Mr. Justice Morris at Notts Assizes yesterday.</span><br /><span style="color: #008000;">Reuben Alfred Lamb (25), a Mansfield grinder, who admitted bigamously marrying a young Mansfield widow on 9 February last year, was sent to prison for three months.</span><br /><span style="color: #008000;">The widow was Mrs. Mary Evans Mitchell, of Mansfield, and Lamb was accused of marrying her while his legal wife, Kathleen, was still alive.<br /></span><span style="color: #008000;">N.A.A.F.I. MEETING<br /></span><span style="color: #008000;">For the prosecution Mr. Nigel Robinson stated that Mrs. Mitchell was a widow whom defendant met while she was working in the N.A.A.F.I. at Nottingham.</span><br /><span style="color: #008000;">&#8220;He deceived Mrs. Mitchell by telling her that he was a widower; that his wife had been killed in an air raid, and that his marriage had in any case been a great mistake.&#8221;<br /></span><span style="color: #008000;">THRASHED HER<br /></span><span style="color: #008000;">Mr. Robinson added that on 21 January this year the legal wife went to Mansfield to see Lamb. She told Mrs. Mitchell that he was already married, and Lamb thereupon thrashed her.</span><br /><span style="color: #008000;">Lamb was defended by Mr. W. A. Sime, who stated that the legal marriage had been most unhappy Lamb had already taken steps for divorce, and proceedings were still going on</span><br /><span style="color: #008000;">He and Mrs. Mitchell were very fond of each other and after he had deceived her for so long, he simply had not the courage to tell her the truth when it actually came to the point of marrying her<br /></span><span style="font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; color: #008000;">(Nottingham Journal, 19 February 1947, p3, c3)</span></blockquote><!-- relpost-thumb-wrapper --><div class="relpost-thumb-wrapper"><!-- filter-class --><div class="relpost-thumb-container"><style>.relpost-block-single-image, .relpost-post-image { margin-bottom: 10px; }</style><h2>Related posts:</h2><div style="clear: both"></div><div style="clear: both"></div><!-- relpost-block-container --><div class="relpost-block-container relpost-block-column-layout" style="--relposth-columns: 3;--relposth-columns_t: 3; --relposth-columns_m: 2"><a href="https://geneageek.com/bigamy-blues-part-2/"class="relpost-block-single" ><div class="relpost-custom-block-single"><div class="relpost-block-single-image rpt-lazyload" aria-hidden="true" role="img" data-bg="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/cropped-geneageekwordpress-1.png" style="background: transparent no-repeat scroll 0% 0%; width: 150px; height: 150px; aspect-ratio: 1/1;"></div><div class="relpost-block-single-text"  style="height: 75px;font-family: Arial;  font-size: 16px;  color: #333333;"><h2 class="relpost_card_title">Bigamy Blues - Part 2</h2></div></div></a><a href="https://geneageek.com/christ-church-blakenall-heath/"class="relpost-block-single" ><div class="relpost-custom-block-single"><div class="relpost-block-single-image rpt-lazyload" aria-label="front of stone church behind low brick wall and trees bare of leaves" role="img" data-bg="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/Christ-Church-3.jpg" style="background: transparent no-repeat scroll 0% 0%; width: 150px; height: 150px; aspect-ratio: 1/1;"></div><div class="relpost-block-single-text"  style="height: 75px;font-family: Arial;  font-size: 16px;  color: #333333;"><h2 class="relpost_card_title">Christ Church, Blakenall Heath</h2></div></div></a><a href="https://geneageek.com/woman-of-my-convictions/"class="relpost-block-single" ><div class="relpost-custom-block-single"><div class="relpost-block-single-image rpt-lazyload" aria-label="birminghamqtrsessionrecords" role="img" data-bg="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/birminghamqtrsessionrecords.jpg" style="background: transparent no-repeat scroll 0% 0%; width: 150px; height: 150px; aspect-ratio: 1/1;"></div><div class="relpost-block-single-text"  style="height: 75px;font-family: Arial;  font-size: 16px;  color: #333333;"><h2 class="relpost_card_title">Woman of my Convictions</h2></div></div></a></div><!-- close relpost-block-container --><div style="clear: both"></div></div><!-- close filter class --></div><!-- close relpost-thumb-wrapper --><p>The post <a href="https://geneageek.com/bigamy-blues/">Bigamy Blues</a> appeared first on <a href="https://geneageek.com">Geneageek</a>.</p>
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		<title>The Hannah Chronicles: Obscene Language</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Newspapers are &#8216;da bomb&#8216; for finding out information about relatives but it&#8217;s important to widen searches for different spellings, variations and even other family members. This time, searching just the&#8230; </p>
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<p>Newspapers are &#8216;<em>da bomb</em>&#8216; for finding out information about relatives but it&#8217;s important to widen searches for different spellings, variations and even other family members. This time, searching just the name Rollett (it helps that it&#8217;s not too common), brought up an article I hadn&#8217;t seen before:</p>
<p><figure id="attachment_1738" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1738" style="width: 504px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1876.00-Nottingham-Journal-20-March-1876-p4-c2.png"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1738 size-full" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1876.00-Nottingham-Journal-20-March-1876-p4-c2.png" alt="" width="504" height="204" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1738" class="wp-caption-text">Nottingham Journal, 20 March 1876, p4 c2</figcaption></figure></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #008000;">USING OBSCENE LANGUAGE &#8211; Hannah Rollett was charged with using obscene language in Walker lane, on Wednesday last, to the annoyance of Sarah Ann Rollett, and fined 40s. and costs, or, in default, one month with hard labour. -Ann Wright was charged with a similar offence in the Market place and Bold lane, to the annoyance of John Rollett, on Wednesday last, and fined 40s. and costs, or, in default, one month with hard labour.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;">Nottingham Journal, 20 March 1876, p4 c2</span></p></blockquote>
<p>Typical of the Hannah I&#8217;d come to know and love, and interesting that it involved Alexander&#8217;s sister, Sarah Ann, again. But underneath, the next case also involved a Rollett and I was wondering if there was a connection when I noticed the name &#8216;Ann Wright&#8217;. I know that Hannah had a sister, <a href="https://geneageek.com/1623-2/">Ann</a>, who married a Wright in 1872. Could this be her? Were they all arguing together &#8211; siblings against siblings? And who was this John Rollett?</p>
<p>It was only a couple days later that a different search revealed more information:</p>
<p><figure id="attachment_1737" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1737" style="width: 499px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1876.0-Derby-Mercury-22-March-1876-p2-c5.png"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1737 size-full" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1876.0-Derby-Mercury-22-March-1876-p2-c5.png" alt="" width="499" height="204" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1737" class="wp-caption-text">Derby Mercury, 22 March 1876, p2 c5</figcaption></figure></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #008000;">Hannah Rollett was charged in her absence with using obscene language to the special annoyance of Sarah Ann Rollett, her sister-in-law, in Workhouse-yard, Walker-lane. -Fined 40s. and costs, or one month&#8217;s imprisonment.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;">Ann Wright was charged in her absence with using obscene language to the special annoyance of Alexander Rollett, the husband of the last defendant. The affair took place in consequence of the complainant demanding his child, which had been under Wright&#8217;s care. -Fined 40s. and costs, or one month&#8217;s imprisonment, with hard labour.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;">Derby Mercury, 22 March 1876, p2 c5</span></p></blockquote>
<p><figure id="attachment_1754" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1754" style="width: 806px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/Derby-c1899.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1754 size-full" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/Derby-c1899.jpg" alt="" width="806" height="731" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1754" class="wp-caption-text">Derby c1899 map showing places mentioned in the articles (Blue line marks Bold Lane)</figcaption></figure></p>
<p>The extra details indicate that this was indeed a &#8216;family affair&#8217; so it&#8217;s more than likely this Ann Wright was in fact, Hannah&#8217;s sister. We know that her first daughter, Sarah Jane, was &#8216;under Wright&#8217;s care&#8217; in 1881 where they appear in the census together. Sarah Jane would have been aged 4 at the time of this article but it could also refer to his son, Richard William who would have been nearly 2 years old. By 1881, &#8216;William&#8217; was living with his father and his live-in-lover, <a href="https://geneageek.com/the-hannah-chronicles-shocking-immorality/">Selina Banks</a>. [Hannah was 3 months pregnant with John William at the time.]</p>
<p><figure id="attachment_1675" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1675" style="width: 523px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1881-Bates-Wright.png"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1675 size-full" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1881-Bates-Wright.png" alt="" width="523" height="92" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1675" class="wp-caption-text">1881 census &#8211; Bonsall &#8211; Sarah Jane living with her aunt, Ann</figcaption></figure></p>
<p><figure id="attachment_1748" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1748" style="width: 517px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1881-Richard-William-with-father.png"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1748 size-full" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1881-Richard-William-with-father.png" alt="" width="517" height="109" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1748" class="wp-caption-text">1881 census -Derby (Nun St) &#8211; Richard William living with his father, Alexander</figcaption></figure></p>
<p><figure id="attachment_1749" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1749" style="width: 562px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1881-John-with-mother.png"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1749 size-full" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1881-John-with-mother.png" alt="" width="562" height="84" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1749" class="wp-caption-text">1881 census &#8211; Derby (Willow Row) &#8211; John William living with his mother, Hannah</figcaption></figure></p>
<p>It seems a bit rich that Alexander and his sister would take his wife and sister-in-law to court based on their language &#8211; they were hardly beacons of modesty. The move seemed designed to antagonise but it is hard to say who was in the right here as neither parent seemed like a great role model. A few months later, Alexander was involved in a &#8216;<a href="https://geneageek.com/hannah-in-excelsis/">murderous assault on a policeman</a>&#8216;; the next year, Hannah committed her own &#8216;<a href="https://geneageek.com/the-hannah-chronicles-murderous-attack/">murderous attack</a>&#8216;; and a few years later, Hannah and Alexander would again argue over custody of their children which caused newspapers to report on their <a href="https://geneageek.com/the-hannah-chronicles-shocking-immorality/">&#8216;Shocking Immorality&#8217;</a>.<!-- relpost-thumb-wrapper --></p>
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		<title>The Hannah Chronicles: A Disorderly House</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>&#160; Hannah Bates/Rollett and William Henry Lamb were not ones to live life quietly it seems. In January of 1886, they were subjects of a raid where it was found&#8230; </p>
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<p><figure id="attachment_1714" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1714" style="width: 382px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1886.1-Nottingham-Evening-Post-27-January-1886-p2-c4.png"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1714 size-full" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1886.1-Nottingham-Evening-Post-27-January-1886-p2-c4-e1592318483243.png" alt="" width="382" height="400" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1714" class="wp-caption-text">Nottingham Evening Post, 27 Jan 1886, p2 c4</figcaption></figure></p>
<p>Hannah Bates/Rollett and William Henry Lamb were not ones to live life quietly it seems. In January of 1886, they were subjects of a raid where it was found they, along with some neighbours, were keeping a &#8216;disorderly house&#8217;.</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #008000;">At the Derby Borough Police-court, to-day&#8230; Edward and Patience Helmsley, husband and wife were charged on a warrant with keeping a disorderly house at House 7, Court 3, Willow-row, between January 16th and 24th&#8230; </span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;">-Similar penalties were imposed in a similar charge against William Lamb and Hannah Rollit, of House 4, Court 3, Willow-row. Detective Clay stated that most of the persons who entered the house were young men. Prisoners, who had lived together for two years, were found guilty. There were five minor convictions against the man, and six against the woman. </span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;">Nottingham Evening Post, 27 Jan 1886, p2 c4</span></p></blockquote>
<p>The neighbours in House 7 appear to have held the most serious charge as they appear first in reports.</p>
<p>The <em>Nottingham Journal</em> (28 Jan 1886) was less euphemistic when they reported a &#8220;RAID ON BROTHEL KEEPERS&#8221;.</p>
<p>Upon being read the warrant, Patience Helmsley had asked &#8220;Why don&#8217;t you do them up No. 1 court as well?&#8221; which indicates this was a relatively common thing in the court houses of Willow Row. &#8220;In consequence of complaints he and Sergeant Dexter watched the houses in this this court&#8221;&#8230;</p>
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<p><figure id="attachment_1718" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1718" style="width: 491px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1886.2-Nottingham-Journal-28-January-1886-p6c1-2-a.png"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1718 size-full" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1886.2-Nottingham-Journal-28-January-1886-p6c1-2-a.png" alt="" width="491" height="292" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1718" class="wp-caption-text">Nottingham Journal, 28 January 1886, p6 c1</figcaption></figure></p>
<p><figure id="attachment_1719" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1719" style="width: 475px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1886.2-Nottingham-Journal-28-January-1886-p6c1-2-b.png"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1719 size-full" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1886.2-Nottingham-Journal-28-January-1886-p6c1-2-b.png" alt="" width="475" height="848" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1719" class="wp-caption-text">Nottingham Journal, 28 January 1886, p6 c2</figcaption></figure></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #008000;">Hannah Rolle[t] and William Lamb were charged with a similar offence at house No.2, Court 3, Willow-row. -Detective Clay spoke to arresting the prisoners who denied keeping a brothel. -They had lived in the house about three or four months. On the 16th inst. four women and three men entered the house; on the 21st two men and two women went in the house; on the 23rd two women and nine men went into the house. The prisoners lived together as man and wife. The prisoners were about when this state of things was going on. -The man denied the charge, but the woman admitted the offence. -The prisoners had each been previously convicted, and they were now fined £5 and costs, or one month&#8217;s imprisonment with hard labour.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;">Nottingham Journal, 28 January 1886, p6 c2</span></p></blockquote>
<p>Interesting that in both cases, the men plead ignorance:</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #008000;">In defence the male prisoner [Edward Hemsley] said he did not know anything about the &#8220;affair,&#8221; as he was at work every day. -The female said it was all her fault. He did not want her to keep such a house, and she wished she never had. If the Bench sent them to gaol, her husband would get the &#8220;sack.&#8221; If they would let her off she would lead a better life.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;">Nottingham Journal, 28 January 1886, p6 c2</span></p></blockquote>
<p><figure id="attachment_1717" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1717" style="width: 395px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1717 size-full" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1886.4-Derbyshire-Advertiser-and-Journal-29-January-1886-p3-c5.png" alt="" width="395" height="565" /><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1717" class="wp-caption-text">Derbyshire Advertiser and Journal, 29 January 1886, p3 c5</figcaption></figure></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #008000;">&#8230;William Lamb and Hannah Rollett were charged on a warrant with keeping a disorderly house in Court 3, Willow-row between the 16th and 23rd Jan. -Detective Clay gave evidence of a similar nature to that in the previous case and said that he and police-sergeant Dexter apprehended the prisoners on the previous night, when they emphatically denied the charge.- The woman, who had been convicted six times before, pleaded guilty. The man had been in trouble on five previous occasions, and he now denied the charge.- They were fined £5 and costs each, with the alternative of a month&#8217;s imprisonment.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;">Derbyshire Advertiser and Journal, 29 January 1886, p3 c5</span></p></blockquote>
<p>The <em>Sheffield Indpendent </em>(28 January 1886) gave much the same information but mentions the &#8220;Prisoners&#8230; had lived together for two years&#8230;&#8221; even though we have evidence that they had been living together for around four.  [see <a href="https://geneageek.com/the-hannah-chronicles-enter-william/">previous post</a>]</p>
<p><figure id="attachment_1721" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1721" style="width: 567px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1886.3-Sheffield-Independent-28-January-1886-p2-c5.png"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1721 size-full" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1886.3-Sheffield-Independent-28-January-1886-p2-c5.png" alt="" width="567" height="502" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1721" class="wp-caption-text">Sheffield Independent, 28 January 1886, p2 c5</figcaption></figure></p>
<p>It&#8217;s unclear whether Hannah or William opted to pay the fine or take the imprisonment. I should note at this point that despite all these convictions against Hannah over the years and reports of serving time, I&#8217;ve not yet been able to find any jail record under any of her names.</p>
<p>Despite her claim that she would &#8220;lead a better life&#8221;, newspapers show that Patience Helmsley was charged with the same offence a few years later in 1890 (with double the penalty):</p>
<p><figure id="attachment_1726" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1726" style="width: 519px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1890-Derby-Daily-Telegraph-25-March-1890-p3-c2.png"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1726 size-full" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1890-Derby-Daily-Telegraph-25-March-1890-p3-c2.png" alt="" width="519" height="294" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1726" class="wp-caption-text">Derby Daily Telegraph, 25 March 1890, p3 c2</figcaption></figure><!-- relpost-thumb-wrapper --></p>
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		<title>The Hannah Chronicles: Enter William</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>It wasn&#8217;t too long after the &#8216;shocking immorality&#8216; of 1881 that Hannah Bates/Rollett established a relationship with the significantly younger, William Henry Lamb. William&#8217;s family had lived in the West&#8230; </p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It wasn&#8217;t too long after the &#8216;<a href="https://geneageek.com/the-hannah-chronicles-shocking-immorality/">shocking immorality</a>&#8216; of 1881 that Hannah Bates/Rollett established a relationship with the significantly younger, William Henry Lamb.</p>
<p>William&#8217;s family had lived in the West End area of Derby for generations and he and Hannah soon set up home in one of the court houses in Willow Row. His parents lived in neighbouring Goodwin Street (where William himself was born at number 29), and like his father, William worked as a bricklayer and chimney sweep.</p>
<p>By 1882, Hannah was already referring to William as her husband, and using his surname when she was charged with drunkenness in Willow Row. (William was only 17 years old at this point and Hannah was 25.)</p>
<p><figure id="attachment_1701" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1701" style="width: 472px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1701 size-full" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1882.1-Derby-Daily-Telegraph-08-May-1882-p4c3.png" alt="" width="472" height="171" /><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1701" class="wp-caption-text">Derby Daily Telegraph, 08 May 1882, p4 c3</figcaption></figure></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #008000;">&#8211;Hannah Lamb was charged with drunkenness in Willow-row.-Prisoner said she was suffering more from passion than drink. Her husband had turned her out of the house.-She was fined 5s. and costs, or seven days&#8217; imprisonment with hard labour. </span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;">Derby Daily Telegraph, 08 May 1882, p4c3</span></p></blockquote>
<p>From this we can assume they had been living together as &#8216;man and wife&#8217; despite not being married and that the relationship was quite tumultuous even in their early days together.</p>
<p>The next year, it was William&#8217;s turn to be fined for drunkenness:</p>
<p><figure id="attachment_1702" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1702" style="width: 371px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1883-Derby-Daily-Telegraph-03-November-1883-p3-c4.png"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1702 size-full" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1883-Derby-Daily-Telegraph-03-November-1883-p3-c4.png" alt="" width="371" height="152" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1702" class="wp-caption-text">Derby Daily Telegraph, 03 November 1883, p3 c4</figcaption></figure></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #008000;">DRUNKENNESS.-William Lamb was fined 10s. and costs for being drunk and disorderly in Willow-row, on Thursday afternoon.&#8211;Police-constable Levers proved the case.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;">Derby Daily Telegraph, 03 November 1883, p3 c4</span></p></blockquote>
<p>A few years later, Hannah was summoned for threatening Mary Toon after a quarrel &#8216;about a cat&#8217;:</p>
<p><figure id="attachment_1706" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1706" style="width: 488px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1885-Derby-Daily-Telegraph-07-May-1885-p3-c3-MaryToon.png"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1706 size-full" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1885-Derby-Daily-Telegraph-07-May-1885-p3-c3-MaryToon.png" alt="" width="488" height="162" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1706" class="wp-caption-text">Derby Daily Telegraph, 07 May 1885, p3 c3</figcaption></figure></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #008000;">USING THREATS. -Hannah Lamb, a married woman, was summoned for threatening Mary Toon, on the 2nd inst -The parties live in Willow-row, and quarrelled about a cat -The defendant was bound over to keep the peace for 3 months in the sum of £10.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;">Derby Daily Telegraph, 07 May 1885, p3 c3</span></p></blockquote>
<p>Interestingly, William&#8217;s mother was a Toon so this Mary could be one of his relatives.</p>
<p>It was only a few months later that both Hannah and William were involved in some kind of brawl with the neighbours:</p>
<p><figure id="attachment_1707" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1707" style="width: 318px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1885-Derby-Daily-Telegraph-25-August-1885-p3-c6.png"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1707 size-full" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1885-Derby-Daily-Telegraph-25-August-1885-p3-c6.png" alt="" width="318" height="534" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1707" class="wp-caption-text">Derby Daily Telegraph, 25 August 1885 p3 c6</figcaption></figure></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #008000;">THE VIOLENT ASSAULT IN WILLOW ROW. &#8211; Thomas Limbert, John Tearney, and Henry Hill were charged with violently assaulting William Lamb, in court 3, Willow-row, on the night of the 21st instant. -Mr. Briggs defended Tearney and Hill. -The prosecutor stated that he lived in Court 3, Willow row, and knew the prisoners, who live in the same court. On Friday night, about half-past eleven, he went to Limbert&#8217;s house. The door was locked, and he shouted &#8220;Is our Nan here?&#8221; meaning Hannah Rollet. Limbert replied that she was not. Witness then requested to be allowed to look, and Limbert unlocked the door and went outside, and, using some bad language, he asked what witness wanted there. Without getting an answer he struck witness a number of times, and knocked him down. The other prisoners then went up the yard, and said to Limbert, &#8220;Give it the &#8211;, Tommy.&#8221; They then started kicking him whilst he was on the ground. Witness was taken to the Infirmary where he remained until that morning. He had been on friendly terms with the prisoners. He did not kick at the door when he went to Limbert&#8217;s house. -Hannah Rollit gave similar evidence. -The defence was that Lamb and Limbert were fighting, when Lamb fetched a sweep&#8217;s scraper out, and would have killed Limbert with it had not Hill prevented him. Tearney, it was said, was never within ten yards of the place where the fight took place. -Mr. Briggs called several witnesses, who corroborated the latter statement. -The Bench, having a doubt as regards Tearney, discharged him, Limbert, who had been convicted 15 times before, was sent to gaol for a month, with hard labour, Hill who had 21 previous confictions against him, was sentenced to a similar term. </span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;">Derby Daily Telegraph, 25 August 1885 p3 c6</span></p></blockquote>
<p>The Derbyshire Advertiser and Journal gave a different account a few days later:</p>
<p><figure id="attachment_1708" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1708" style="width: 497px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1885-Derbyshire-Advertiser-and-Journal-28-August-1885-p3-c5.png"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1708 size-full" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1885-Derbyshire-Advertiser-and-Journal-28-August-1885-p3-c5.png" alt="" width="497" height="498" srcset="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1885-Derbyshire-Advertiser-and-Journal-28-August-1885-p3-c5.png 497w, https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1885-Derbyshire-Advertiser-and-Journal-28-August-1885-p3-c5-150x150.png 150w" sizes="auto, (min-width: 1280px) 840px, (min-width: 1024px) calc(100vw - 460px), (min-width: 652px) 800px, (min-width: 482px) calc(100vw - 80px), calc(100vw - 40px)" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1708" class="wp-caption-text">Derbyshire Advertiser and Journal, 28 August 1885, p3 c5</figcaption></figure></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #008000;">ALLEGED VIOLENT ASSAULT IN WILLOW-ROW. -Jas. Limbert, John Teeney, and Henry Hill were charged with violently assaulting William Lamb, in Court 3, Willow-row, on the previous day. -Police-constable Robinson said that on the previous night he was called to a house in Court 3, Willow-row, by a woman named Rollet. On arriving there he saw the prosecutor who was bleeding from the mouth, and he complained of having been assaulted by three men. Witness did not see any wounds or bruises on him, and consequently told him to summon the men, who had attacked him. The woman Rollet subsequently procured a cab, in which the prosecutor was taken to the Infirmary, and from what the doctor who there examined him stated, the prisoners were apprehended and charged with the offence. Limbert said that Lamb went to his door, and made several unpleasant remarks about his wife. The door was fast, and he commenced kicking it. He (Limbert) then opened the door, and Lamb struck at him, whereupon he retaliated and knocked him down in self-defence. Prosecutor regained his feet, and they then had a fair fight, during which the other men came up, and Lamb ran into his own house. He came out again with a sweep&#8217;s broom, with which he struck at them, but after a scuffle they took it from him. -Police-constable Shirley also gave evidence as to Lambert&#8217;s condition. -Prisoners were remanded until Monday.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;">Derbyshire Advertiser and Journal, 28 August 1885, p3 c5</span></p></blockquote>
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		<title>Sister Act</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>After establishing that Sarah Jane BATES (aka Sally) was a daughter of Hannah Bates, I wanted to know more about her. The 1939 census gave her birth year as 1872&#8230; </p>
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<p>After establishing that Sarah Jane BATES (aka <a href="https://geneageek.com/aunt-sally/">Sally</a>) was a daughter of Hannah Bates, I wanted to know more about her.</p>
<p>The 1939 census gave her birth year as 1872 and so Sarah Jane Bates was easily found in the 1881 census staying as the niece of Edwin Wright in Holly Finnis, Bonsall &#8211; but was this our girl?  Could Edwin&#8217;s wife, Ann be Hannah BATES&#8217; elusive sister, Ann BATES? I needed more evidence to link the two families.</p>
<p><figure id="attachment_1675" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1675" style="width: 523px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1881-Bates-Wright.png"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1675 size-full" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1881-Bates-Wright.png" alt="" width="523" height="92" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1675" class="wp-caption-text">1881 Census &#8211; Bonsall</figcaption></figure></p>
<p>Searching for an Ann Wright brought up her second marriage to an Ebenezer BANNER in 1886. This excited me as Hannah had used the name &#8216;<a href="https://geneageek.com/hannah-had-a-little-lamb/">Ann Banner</a>&#8216; when she married William Henry LAMB but I&#8217;ve never known why. However, even though this bride&#8217;s father is also named as James Bates (same as Hannah), there was still a chance it could all be coincidence.</p>
<p><figure id="attachment_1624" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1624" style="width: 1275px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1624 size-full" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/Ann-Wright-Ebenezer-Banner.png" alt="" width="1275" height="402" /><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1624" class="wp-caption-text">1886 marriage of Ann Wright (nee Bates) to Ebenezer Banner</figcaption></figure></p>
<p>And then I found Ann&#8217;s first marriage record&#8230;</p>
<p><figure id="attachment_1678" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1678" style="width: 805px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1872-Bates-Wright.png"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1678 size-full" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1872-Bates-Wright.png" alt="" width="805" height="241" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1678" class="wp-caption-text">1872 marriage of Ann Bates to Edward Wright</figcaption></figure></p>
<p>Bing, bang, boom!</p>
<p>Witnesses: Alexander Rollett and Hannah Rollett (!!)</p>
<p>This is the proof I need that the 1881 census record <em><strong>is</strong></em> Sarah Jane and the Ann in all these records is Hannah&#8217;s sister Ann BATES. [I believe Edward was misrecorded as Edwin in the 1881 census &#8211; &#8216;his mark&#8217; indicates he could likely neither read nor write so wouldn&#8217;t know to correct the census taker.] Interestingly, Hannah was also living on Duke Street (number 51) when she married Alexander a few months earlier &#8211; perhaps both girls had been living with their mother. (They appear to be with her in the 1871 census taken the year before their marriages.)</p>
<p>Divorce at the time was rare and limited almost exclusively to the rich. My presumption is that when Ann&#8217;s second husband, Ebenezer died in 1891, Hannah saw her chance and married William by using her sister&#8217;s name a few months later. If anyone was suspicious, records would show that &#8216;Ann Banner&#8217; was in fact a widow and legally able to marry.  I have no idea if Ann consented to this or not. Of course there is the possibility William did actually marry Hannah&#8217;s sister for some reason but there is a lot more evidence proving the relationship between William and Hannah.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #008000;">Next Steps:</span></strong></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="color: #008000;">Confirm Hannah, Ann and their mother&#8217;s 1861 and 1871 censuses</span></li>
<li><span style="color: #008000;">Search newspapers for Ann and her husbands</span></li>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Apr 2019 12:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Before Rose Richards [nee LAMB] died, we were chatting about her family history via facebook messenger and she wrote: &#8220;… my Dad had a sister we called Sally. She married&#8230; </p>
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<p>Before Rose Richards [nee LAMB] died, we were chatting about her family history via facebook messenger and she wrote:</p>



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<p><span style="color: #008000;">&#8220;… my Dad had a sister we called Sally. She married a man named Woodward who left her and went to America. During the war an American soldier had a piece in the Derby Evening telegraph asking for her, But my Dad wouldn&#8217;t let us answer it.&#8221;</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;">Rose Richards [nee Lamb], 2 Aug 2016</span></p>
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<p>I dutifully added the name Sally Lamb to the family tree as a brother of Reuben Henry LAMB (son of Hannah BATES and William Henry LAMB) but was unable to find the newspaper piece Rose refers to.</p>



<p>At a later point, likely trawling the newspapers for Rolletts, I came across an article requesting William Woodward come forward, or else his now deceased legal wife&#8217;s estate would be given to her brother John William Rollett:</p>



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<p><span style="color: #008000;">&#8220;TO WILLIAM WOODWARD formerly of Derby&#8230; and Birmingham&#8230; but whose present whereabouts is unknown.</span><br /><span style="color: #008000;">TAKE NOTICE that a Citation has issued citing you to cause an appearance to be entered for you in the Principal Probate Registry&#8230; within one month after publication hereof and accept or refuse Letters of Administration of the estate of SARAH JANE WOODWARD, of 53, Gisborne-street, Derby, in the County of Derby, deceased, or shew cause why the same should not be granted JOHN WILLIAM ROLLETT as a lawful brother of the whole blood of the said deceased and one of the persons interested in her estate, with an intimation that in default of your appearance Letters of Administration will be granted to the said JOHN WILLIAM ROLLETT.&#8221;</span></p>
<span style="color: #008000;"><cite>Derby Daily Telegraph, 12 May 1947, p10</cite></span></blockquote>



<p>This showed that Sally, officially known as Sarah Jane was actually a child of Hannah BATES&#8217; first husband, Alexander ROLLETT. Until then, I had only known him to have two sons &#8211; John William and William Henry. But since John was referred to as &#8216;a lawful brother of the whole blood&#8217;, I adjusted the tree and changed her maiden name to Sarah Jane ROLLETT, daughter of Alexander.</p>



<p>Unfortunately, this still didn&#8217;t help me in my quest for information. The closest I got was Sarah&#8217;s likely appearance in the 1939 register, where she was recorded as a widow and retired &#8216;rag sorter&#8217;.</p>
<figure id="attachment_1606" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1606" style="width: 1417px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1606 size-full" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/8c0a59a15162dc5f042acc52629d3d3f.png" alt="" width="1417" height="92" /><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1606" class="wp-caption-text">Sarah Jane Woodward in the 1939 register</figcaption></figure>
<p>Today, however, I came across her long lost husband in an ancestry member tree. This tree gave her name as Sarah Jane BATES (her mother&#8217;s maiden name) and also shared a copy of the marriage certificate which shows the two had married in Birmingham in 1891.</p>
<figure id="attachment_1615" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1615" style="width: 1161px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1615 size-full" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/dadfe51a5ae0b89055bd197a6e27d407.png" alt="" width="1161" height="370" /><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1615" class="wp-caption-text">The 1891 marriage of Sarah Jane BATES to William WOODWARD</figcaption></figure>
<p>Interestingly, Sally does not give her father&#8217;s name so it is still uncertain whether Alexander truly is her biological father. It is unlikely that her birth record would have his name either, since she is registered under her mother&#8217;s maiden name but I&#8217;d still like to order it one day to check. The fact that Sarah Jane was never recorded with her family intrigues me &#8211; perhaps she wasn&#8217;t actually Rollett&#8217;s child either?</p>
<p>It turns out that William had actually formed a relationship with his barmaid, Alice Robinson around 1907 (William &amp; Sally ran a pub in Aston &#8211; noted on the 1901 census) and had a couple of kids with her before migrating to Canada around 1910, where they lived as a married couple and continued to grow their family.</p>
<p>As for the newspaper piece Rose mentioned, according to William&#8217;s family he returned to England for a few years at the beginning of the war so it&#8217;s possible William did try to reach out to his former wife at that time (for whatever reason).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s so amazing to actually find answers to these little mysteries and especially from another perspective. In addition, the search for Sally allowed me to unlock more doors into the intriguing life of Hannah Bates&#8230;</p>
<h3><span style="color: #008000;">Update:</span></h3>
<p><span style="color: #333333;">Due to the above article, I had assumed Sally died in 1947 but the only likely death record in the index was in 1941. I have now found the probate record that states she did die in 1941 but probate wasn&#8217;t granted until 1947. Presumably, time had to be given to locate her missing husband, William before it being passed on to her brother(?).</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;">Next Steps:</span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="color: #008000;">order Sarah Jane BATES&#8217; birth certificate</span></li>
<li><span style="color: #008000;">locate newspaper article mentioned by Rose</span></li>
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<p style="font-size: 0;">And that&#8217;s where things have stayed for a long while. I was unable even to find a likely marriage between the two. But today, all that changed when I came across an ancestry member tree, which finally blew the doors open on this couple. More importantly, the discovery has helped me unlock even more doors.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>In 1880, Hannah and her husband Alexander ROLLETT made the papers again with regards to their &#8216;shocking immorality&#8217;. According to the articles, Hannah had taken up with Henry Banks, who&#8230; </p>
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<p>In 1880, Hannah and her husband Alexander ROLLETT made the papers again with regards to their &#8216;shocking immorality&#8217;. According to the articles, Hannah had taken up with Henry Banks, who happened to also be married. Selina Banks, in turn took up with Alexander &#8211; in some kind of &#8216;wife swap&#8217; scenario.  Hannah went round &#8216;to fetch her child&#8217; (how long the child had been with his father is unclear) and an argument ensued during which Hannah attacked Selina with a fire fender.</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #008000;">SHOCKING IMMORALITY. -At the Derby Police Court, yesterday, Selina Banks was summoned for assaulting Hannah Rollett. &#8211; The complainant&#8217;s husband, it appears, lives with the defendant, and Mrs. Rollett formerly lived with defendant&#8217;s husband. Complainant went to defendant&#8217;s house on Sunday to fetch her child, and defendant assaulted her with the fender. &#8211; The Bench convicted the prisoner, and the Chairman (Ald. Turner) described the revelations that had been made as shocking in the extreme. A fine of 5s. and costs would be inflicted.</span></p></blockquote>
<p><figure id="attachment_1055" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1055" style="width: 508px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1880-marriage-laws-Derby-Mercury-10-March-1880-p2-col6.png"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1055 size-full" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1880-marriage-laws-Derby-Mercury-10-March-1880-p2-col6.png" alt="" width="508" height="251" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1055" class="wp-caption-text">1880 &#8211; marriage laws &#8211; Derby Mercury 10 March 1880, p2 col6</figcaption></figure></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #008000;">THE MARRIAGE LAWS.-Selina Banks was charged by Hannah Rollett with assaulting her. -The complainant&#8217;s husband has left her, and lives with the defendant. Complainant went to the house where the pair live, saying that she had come for her child. A row ensued, and the assault took place. -Defendant, in her defence, said that the complainant had been unduly intimate with her husband, and had caused her to be separated from him. She therefore went to live with Mrs. Rollett&#8217;s husband. -Mr. Turner (who had taken the chair in the absence of Mr. Bailey) said the case had revealed a most disreputable and immoral condition of affairs. Defendant would be fined 5s. and costs, or seven days&#8217; hard labour.</span></p></blockquote>
<p>Alexander was still living with Selina at the time of the 1881 census (April) &#8211; also with them were his son William, and Selina&#8217;s son Joseph (both 6 years old). Perhaps William was the child referred to in the articles?  Either way, the incident seems to have marked the end of Hannah and Alexander&#8217;s marriage despite being unable to officially divorce.</p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;">Interesting note:</span> a few months after the 1881 census was taken, Alexander was found &#8216;drunk and riotous&#8217; in Rivers Street.  He claimed to have been &#8220;off his beer&#8221; for two years before having a tipple at his sister&#8217;s wedding. The sister would have been Sarah Ann Rollett whom <a href="https://geneageek.com/hannah-in-excelsis/">Hannah had attacked a few years previous</a>.</p>
<p><figure id="attachment_1057" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1057" style="width: 439px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1881-drunk-Derby-Daily-Telegraph-16-August-1881-p3-col3.png"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1057 size-full" src="https://geneageek.com/wp-content/uploads/1881-drunk-Derby-Daily-Telegraph-16-August-1881-p3-col3.png" alt="" width="439" height="158" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1057" class="wp-caption-text">Derby Daily Telegraph 16 August 1881, p3 col3</figcaption></figure><!-- relpost-thumb-wrapper --></p>
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